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MM without PIS and CIS is basically Fernus and we've all seen what he did to the JL all by himself. MM would win at least 7/10 if not more. He can always phase Supes into a solid object. even if it doesn't outright kill him it'll slow him down alot enough for him to use his other powers.
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These threads are pointless. The logical/intelligent posters always back Jonn, while the ignorant/fanboys will always go with big blue, and you just can't change that.
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SBP is not Supes and has never used his HV with his finess (internal HV, 360 HV, HV heart massages, repairing the fabric of space, tagging intangible beings and the list goes on)
I could actually see Supes using his speed to match MM intangibility frequency (like Flash did)and reversing it in order to then hammer him
That's more PC supes though. I said it before PC with his esoteric powers Supes definitely has a great deal more to bring to the table considering I'm assuming OP meant CIS off all/most powers included. I think MM would win on general tendency now adays but CIS off Fernus vs a ruthless Supes who'd sundip off the bat??? CIS off Supes is definitely one of the heaviest hitters in existence and I mean that more than physically but his ability to solve problems as well and Fernus is not the toughest thing Superman could ever face or has faced. Besides Supes just whips up some of those chocolate cookies MM can't resist and its an instawin.
Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Because J'onn himself has admitted it. We have on panel evidence of Superman throwing J'onn out of his mind, just to prove he can. And just as well- has thrown J'onn through a loop merely contacting his mind. We also have other comparisons, like Aquaman and J'onn getting Dominated by Despero rather easily, at the same time, in mental combat. He was unable to do the same to Clark.
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It's amusing how much those scans fail to prove Jonn can't affect Superman's mind. So Superman can hide himself from a worldwide scan? Means dick all as it's a completely different ballgame when Jonn and he are one on one
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Just to let you know, that scan means that the mindraping of the entire villian community and the punking of Firestorm was the work of Jonn, not fernus.
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Which means that this incident, which is followed by Superman getting pissy at Jonn for reading his mind (I do not have the second page scanned, dunno why, don't care enough to do it.) shows Jonn can waltz in there calm as he pleases.While mindraping the rest of the planet. I could post scans of how a dying Jonn who had been beaten and starved for weeks sent Superman screaming from the sky half a world away during final crisis. Or How Jonn wiped Superman's mind against his wishes during their second round with the White Martians, but alas it's past midnight here and I know all you'll do is throw up excuses and try to act superior.
The other showing is exactly what I referenced, Jonn does a friendly probe,WHICH HE EVEN SAYS ALLOWED HIM TO GET SOMEWHERE, and is repulsed. Big deal. Let's not forget:
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Jonn was constantly mindraping Prometheus at the time as well. Oh, and he was also keeping the Key in a telepathic Coma at the same time.
The Despero showing is idiotic. Superman is last standing because he fought Despero last, simple as that. If you reread the comic you will find that every possession goes panel of Despero looking at victim, followed by panel of victim conquered by Despero. Superman never hits stage 2 because someone else always saves his spandex covered ass. Hammond means dick all too as well. In Brynes run on JLA Superman is left as a telepathic slave to a girl that both Batman and Jonn resist. On Rann Jonn is the only one able to block out the telepathic mindprobes.
I'll gladly eat a dick the day you know what you're talking about. Which won't be for a while I assume. Anyone who thinks a CISless, PIS less Jonn can't mindrape the man of steel is a fanboy or retarded, you people have no middle ground.
People are forgetting one of MM's greatest abilities: Shapeshifting. Its very difficult to physically beat down a shapeshifter, especially one almost as strong and fast as Supes.
And theres no way Supes is gna beat MM at the Intangibility game. And cant he also increase his density to virtual invulnerability??
Oh and since SBP's HV could not effect MM's Intangible form Im not believing Supes can until we at least see some clear evidence specific to MM, or at least to another Martian. And besides MM could counter HV with his own Martian Vision.
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Yeah as far as im concerned SBP's hv is stronger. in SC war he pierced right through Supes like butter with it and he was weakening because he lost his solar converter suit.
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