Current Colossus stomps by the way. The Gladiator that Colossus fought was far weaker than the one we know. It was before Bryne decided to significantly upgrade his stats during his Fantastic Four run.
Colossus has been able to bench more over the years but he's always been a B-level brick, operating in the same tier as Thing. Generally speaking, he'd get wrecked by the elite strong men.
Gladiator went from being slightly superior than Colossus and being one shotted by lasers to a planet shattering, star tanking power house. Post Fantastic Four, he was playing in the same ball park as Thor/Hulk.
Also lol. I'm far from a Gladiator fanboy, I'm just telling you what happened as best as I can tell.
Whatever. Colossus has always been B-level, Gladiator was noticeably more powerful under and post Bryne. No one can really deny that and that's all that matters.
I'm saying Byrne has never confirmed such a rumor. Heck in the FF issue he even brings up his fight with Colossus iirc. If Byrne was trying to start a new era I don't see why he would reference and old battle.
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Him writing a Gladiator that's far more powerful than what we've seen isn't enough? I don't know about that but he definitely mentions his encounter with the X-men. I don't see how that has a significant impact on what I'm saying.
I get it, you like X-men related characters, but if Gladiator/Colossus crossed paths today, I have very little doubt that he would get styled on in a straight up fight. Similar to what would happen if he fought Thor or Hulk.
I don't understand how anyone can sit there and deny that Gladiator was weaker under Claremont. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure all of Gladiator's worst showings were penned by him including the Gambit knockout.
Unless you're using the Cytorrak empowered Colossus (I'm not sure why you would) I'll stop taking you seriously.
Not sure. By the way, that scene is exaggerated. Cannonball knocked Gladiator into a construction site but he never put him down. IIRC Gladiator was fine. The writer also made it clear that Gladiator was in an entirely different league (He was about to punch Cannonball into the Sun) and wrote the type of crap that gets Carver wet like him being capable of doing anything if he sets his mind to it etc.
It should be noted that Gladiator was having confidence issues when Samie struck.
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