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BruceSkywalker
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The Infinity Gauntlet was supremely de-powered for the Avengers films. Thanos should have been absolutely unstoppable.



well considering they had to sell toys to kids and make sure kids understood, having thanos just murder folks would've given them ptsd and other problems.. also the russo's have stated anyway that they never wanted to fully adapt what's in the comics so it really isn't pis nor cis


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Even the depowered version he didn't wield property. The reality gem was quite underutilized (ha I'm creating illusions and turning guns into bubbles!)


Should've been much more like the illusions in Far From Home.


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Jon Wick. Love that film, but there is some pretty high pis moments.

Here’s a glaring moment. After John is captured, Viggo just turns around and let his henchmen finish him off, and they try to finish him with a plastic bag over his head, hence letting his mentor the time to snipe the bad guys.

A simple round to the dome would have done the job.


Because every single Mafia outfit only ever shoot people in the head, right?

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Originally posted by Impediment
The Infinity Gauntlet was supremely de-powered for the Avengers films. Thanos should have been absolutely unstoppable.


Same for Corvus Glaive they depowered him, He should've still been alive after been stabbed by Vision.


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BAD: GoT Season 7 (ya it's TV. Sue me.): The heroes go to get a wight to show Cersei that the Whitewalkers are real and that they need to band together. By doing so, Dany's dragon Viseryon is killed and turned undead by the Night King. Pretty stupid to begin with, trading a dragon - one of only three in this fictional world at the time - for a zombie. Very bad Heroes of Might and Magic 3 tactic.

Here's the horrible kicker though: an undead, blue ice/fire-breathing dragon is exactly what the doctor ordered. The Night King and the Whitewalker army use said dragon to get through the Wall, a magic-imbued giant terrain barrier that prevents any ice zombie army from getting through to the south.

If the heroes just WOULD HAVE DONE NOTHING, then you can have a Whitewalker siege at the Wall that would be nigh-unloseable for humanity south of the Wall. Instead, well... [SPOILER - highlight to read]: the tactical abomination that is the Battle at Winterfell just happened. RIP the horse lords, the Dothraki, some of the worst unbeatable army tropes that ever landed on the small screen.

Agreed! I thought this was so stupid. If they just didn’t do anything they would have been fine. The WW wouldn’t have been able to get south of the wall without Viserion

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Vanishing on 7th Street.

(SPOILERS BELOW IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT)

Much of the movie makes no sense. Although this is about Plot Induced Stupidity.

1. The scene where the lone female character goes running out onto the street because she hears her baby crying. She knows full well that her baby is long gone at this point, so this makes this scene extra stupid and obvious. I hate it when movies do this... nose diving moments like this kill the movies.

2. Another one happens later on in the movie when the little boy runs into the church thinking his mom is there... the plot does this so the Hayden Christiansen character gets offed next. Not that that is a real big issue.

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I wish someone would remake this movie... it had some legitimately creepy scenes. The hallway scene with Hayden's character at the news station is one.


This movie always bothered me. All the people that get abducted leave their clothes behind right? No one takes anything with them. Yet the one guy vanished and came back later because the flashlight hat he was wearing suddenly started to work. And when he returned, he was fully clothed. Why the hell did he get taken fully dressed while everyone else is seemingly butt ass naked? Real PIS there


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The "conflict" of Black Panther where a supposed enlightened government allows a blatant genocidal terrorist to be their leader because of a stupid ass monarchial trial by combat.

Also, the end of Law Abiding Citizen. We all know Clyde Shelton should've won in the end.

Also, John Wick 3, with the supposed ruthless Council going after everyone who helped John....by only injuring them. And there's the various assassin's who took it easy on John. LAME

Also, virtually the entire plot of Mile 22. Mark Wahlberg really leads the stupidest Black Ops team ever in that movie.


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Not sure if its plot induced But the 393 ft tall Godzilla towering over a submarine that itself is floating over thousands of feet of water is kinda stupid and was just done for a cool shot

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Speaking of Kaiju, who in the hell approved the weight classes in Pacific Rim? They should have added 2-3 extra zeros on the number of tons.


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The bit in Endgame when Thanos throws his sword to destroy the van portal before Captain Marvel can reach it. Because just a few minutes earlier, she could fly fast enough to go from the top of the Earth's atmosphere to near the surface in a couple of seconds. Suddenly, she can't even cover a couple hundred meters in a similar amount of time.

Another one is during the final fight between Cap and Bucky in TWS. When Bucky gets his hands on the chip, all he really had to do was squeeze and crush it. Not much Steve can do at that point. But instead he just clutches onto it like an idiot, opening himself up to Cap's choke hold.

There are obviously plenty of others, but those two just popped into my head now.


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Originally posted by KingD19
Because every single Mafia outfit only ever shoot people in the head, right?


What’s your point? Since the beginning of the film, Viggo wanted John dead. He had him dead to rights, yet he allowed his henchmen to put a bag over his head instead of just shooting him.

Hell, John even made a point of not talking to Viggo’s son, walked up to him and shot him.

So clearly Viggo and John’s scene was indeed pis/cis.

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Speaking of Kaiju, who in the hell approved the weight classes in Pacific Rim? They should have added 2-3 extra zeros on the number of tons.



I just assumed they were made entirely out of butterfly wings.

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The bit in Endgame when Thanos throws his sword to destroy the van portal before Captain Marvel can reach it. Because just a few minutes earlier, she could fly fast enough to go from the top of the Earth's atmosphere to near the surface in a couple of seconds. Suddenly, she can't even cover a couple hundred meters in a similar amount of time.

Another one is during the final fight between Cap and Bucky in TWS. When Bucky gets his hands on the chip, all he really had to do was squeeze and crush it. Not much Steve can do at that point. But instead he just clutches onto it like an idiot, opening himself up to Cap's choke hold.

There are obviously plenty of others, but those two just popped into my head now.
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Ya, Captain Marvel, Iron Man, or Thor take the gauntlet into low orbit while the other heroes kill Thanos and his army, then they can take their time getting all the stones back. They even still had/rebuilt the time machine for Cap to go back after Iron Man's funeral. Still a great finale besides the Hulk and Thor character assassinations.

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