Yeah thats a good point. Gladiator might have better punching power due to his speed. Whilst of course Thor with Mjolnir has greater Striking Power and is just overall more powerful.
But with equal speed, and no Mjolnir, Id say its a split in terms of punching power, and strength. Glads has Invulnerability, but im not sure how much of an advantage that would be with Thor's damage soak, and already ridiculous durability.
So for this fight Im thinking I might give Thor the edge now due to him being better at hand to hand combat.
Thor overpowered Durok temporarily, a feat far beyond Gladiator's wildest dreams.
Thor and Hercules did it without any unusual effort, while Gladiator IIRC was testing the limits of his power/was angry, still took about 4 hits, what a weakling. Gladiator's punches can hurt Thor (Not sure why you think that was in contention) but Thor can most definitely rock Gladiator equally as bad with his fists.
Moan, moan, stop being such a vagina Quan. You started using feats as a measuring stick but suddenly it's unfair? Thor carries around Mjolnir 98% of the time, I mean wtf. I told you earlier on, getting into a feat war wouldn't get you any points but since I'm such a gentleman, I'll let you bow out with some of your dignity intact while you still can. You think Gladiator has far more impressive feats and comparative battles?
I'm not even going to press the matter. Like Carver, you'll do a lot of deflecting and shit talking, but when it's time to back it up, you're a chock artist.
The funny thing about it is that peeps are more then willing to acknowledge Glads and Thor as peers even though one could make the case -some would say the case has already been made via bz- that Thor is solidly above Glads. In reality that's just the Thor side being nice and going off of average portrayal and such.
IMO I view Glads above Thor in a fight against each other (but not in general).
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IMO Glads planet busting feat proves he can punch harder than Thor.
Assuming durability is about the same then we should say that Glads wins this.
In a vacuum that may well be true in unarmed combat. However we have other evidence that comes into play here, in addition to the stips themselves. If gladiator were allowed his speed in this scenario I think most people, even Rage, would have to give Glads a healthy majority. If you have two equally strong characters but one has a tremendous speed advantage then imo -all other things being equal- the outcome is obvious.
In this case though we have Thor vs Glads in unarmed combat sans super speed. To me, Thor unequivocally has demonstrated superior toughness then Glads. Glads has the required strength, durability etc to beat Thor here, but I don't think he has the toughness to take out a combatant that has equal stats and doesn't shyte themselves at the merest glance at glads lol. Just my opinion though.
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Even without the restrictions on speed I don't see how anyone can give Gladiator the healthy majority over Thor. It would allow Gladiator superior maneuverability and such but it's not something that will overwhelm Thor. The Masterson/Gladiator battle did a good job of illustrating how I think it would play into the battle. Or Thor's encounters with Hyperion/Sentry/Superman/Surfer etc. It's there, it gives them an edge, but Thor toughens it out.
I notice a bid of a double standard when it comes to Thor's speed. There's no denying that he's had less consistent showings but at the same time there's no denying that's he handled fast opponents just fine.
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Pretty sure Thor has proved himself all around superior to Gladiator in their confrontations and in terms of feats themselves. The only real advantage (a) Gladiator ever really had was disarming Thor and exploiting a weakness that no longer exists.
Concerning speed, it again, like always, depends on how highly you rate superspeed in the context of a forum battle. It's a factor to be sure, but I doubt Gladiator would surely overwhelm Thor with his speed based on, well, comics, really.
That wasnt Gladiator. That was a fight that has been ruled out from both characters since it was Glads from a different timeline. Thor never met the real deal.
Masterson was losing, true, but it wasn't for lack of power, strength or even speed. He was able to react to Gladiator blitzing him both times just fine. He just doesn't have the fire and instincts of a warrior consistently like Thor does.
Disagree with damage soak and striking power. I would put Bill and Thor durability around the same and Tyrant one shotted Bill but had to pound away at Gladiator to take him out of the fight.
Thor has better durability feats, though. And not just because he has more appearances. At Bill's best he's equal to Thor. At Thor's best, he's above Bill. A blow from Mjolnir trumps Gladiator.
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