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Mace Windu vs Maul and Dooku
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KuRuPT Thanosi
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Still waiting to see the feats that put Dooku clearly above Mace... since when is the cartoon not canon?

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Who said it was not canon? The thing with the cartoon is some authoritative sources claim it is exagerated.


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Yeah, cartoon is included in the canon sources (as "C" canon). It means that cartoon is at the same canon level along with comics, some books, games etc.
In G-canon Dooku shows much better force feats.
In T-canon (TCW) Dooku also shows much better force feats.
In C-canon Dooku still shows better force feats:
-comics - Dooku looks much stronger
-cartoon - Mace looks better because of battle of Dantooine (in this case Mace's force feets are exaggerated - prove: AotC (battle of Geonosis), Shatterpoint, TCW (Death Trap, R2D2 come home) - in all of this sources he wasn't able to do, what he did in battle of Dantooine.
-books - Dooku looks a lot of better (in Yoda: DR he is clearly describe as a better force user).

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Originally posted by Zett
Yeah, cartoon is included in the canon sources (as "C" canon). It means that cartoon is at the same canon level along with comics, some books, games etc.
In G-canon Dooku shows much better force feats.
In T-canon (TCW) Dooku also shows much better force feats.
In C-canon Dooku still shows better force feats:
-comics - Dooku looks much stronger
-cartoon - Mace looks better because of battle of Dantooine (in this case Mace's force feets are exaggerated - prove: AotC (battle of Geonosis), Shatterpoint, TCW (Death Trap, R2D2 come home) - in all of this sources he wasn't able to do, what he did in battle of Dantooine.
-books - Dooku looks a lot of better (in Yoda: DR he is clearly describe as a better force user).


The Clone Wars cartoon is also T-Canon, not only is it T-canon, but in G-canon material (ROTS commentary) they reference an incident regarding Mace Windu.
T-canon includes anything that has or will appear on the TV within the past decade or so. T means Television.


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Zett
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Any proves/quotes? I've one for You:

"C-canon is Continuity Canon, consisting of all recent works (and many older works) released under the name of Star Wars: books, comics, games, cartoons, non-theatrical films, and more" - starwars.wikia.com

"T-canon refers to the canon level comprising only the two television shows: Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series. Its precedence over C-Level canon was confirmed by Chee."
- wikipedia

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Mizukage Yoda
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Originally posted by Zett
Any proves/quotes? I've one for You:

"C-canon is Continuity Canon, consisting of all recent works (and many older works) released under the name of Star Wars: books, comics, games, cartoons, non-theatrical films, and more" - starwars.wikia.com

"T-canon refers to the canon level comprising only the two television shows: Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series. Its precedence over C-Level canon was confirmed by Chee."
- wikipedia


You just proved my claim with your quote.


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You just proved my claim with your quote.


No, he just proved you wrong. CWmini was C-Canon. T-Canon is just for the new show(s).

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Still waiting to see the feats that put Dooku clearly above Mace...


Its Mace who needs to prove himself on Dooku's level (with the Force).

When Mace completely dominates the likes of Obi-Wan, Ventress, Bulq, Savage with the Force while simultaneously fighting off another force user, then we can talk.

And in terms of pure TK, what has Mace lifted greater than Dooku's Multiple Stone pillar feat??

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
The Clone Wars cartoon is also T-Canon, not only is it T-canon, but in G-canon material (ROTS commentary) they reference an incident regarding Mace Windu.
Lol yeah they'll do that.

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No, he just proved you wrong. CWmini was C-Canon. T-Canon is just for the new show(s).
That dual quote Zett provided seemed to simultaneously support and contradict Star Wars: The Clone Wars spot in canon. Guess it depends on the first quote's definition of 'cartoon'. It might just be referring top the 80's cartoons, Droids and Ewoks.


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Dooku used to be Windu's superior in the Jedi Order, he could take Windu by himself, Windu is overrated and arrogant. With Maul there as well, Windu would be dead within minutes.

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Mizukage Yoda
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if Obi Wan could kill Maul, I am pretty sure Windu could easily. Dooku is powerful, but more powerful than Windu? I think they're about equal.


Uhhh Maul is likely on par with TPM Windu. It is only post Vaapad training that Windu is soundly above him.


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Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Uhhh Maul is likely on par with TPM Windu.


based on what?

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@truejedi
Wookie probably. It says that TPM Qui-Gon was almost on par with TPM Mace. And Maul was much better then Qui-Gon, yeah?

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It does, but I looked for that quote in the source wookie says it is in and was unable to find it.


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Its all just speculation.. We have no idea how powerful Windu was at that point..

But Im betting not as powerful as his AOTC/ROTS self.

So Maul probably was closer to Mace's league at that time than Obi-Wan was to Maul's league, which is what I believe Mizukage Yoda's point was.

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Mizukage Yoda
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based on what?


It was stated that Qui-Gon and Mace were spar buddies they were at the very least on the same level.


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It was stated that Qui-Gon and Mace were spar buddies they were at the very least on the same level.


what? sparring buddies are on the same level now? Luke sparred with 7 Jedi Masters (and kicked their asses) in LOTF. so that means being ones sparring partner absolutely does NOT make you equals. Who did Yoda spar with, if no one was his equal?

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Yoda didn't spar. Remember that before his duel with Dooku he hadn't practiced in ages. stick out tongue


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Luke sparred with 7 Jedi Masters (and kicked their asses) in LOTF.

What book?

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I think its in Fury. I remember it vaguely and I seem to recall that its after the Jedi move to their hidden base. I think its the scene where they come up with their plan to plant a tracker on Caedus' cape.


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