"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
Indeed. Because of the limits on world-building found in conventional narrative (as opposed to dedicated world-building a la Tolkien, wherein every passing observation is followed by several pages of poetry, history, and metaphysical contemplation) we have to look at what the author of the piece was intending with any given scene. For example, the conversation with Tobin on the Ravager is one that is clearly meant to be the buildup/announcement/reveal of N.'s true nature. That he is a fallible source does not erase his testimony. I suspect that you will agree, RevanSpoilers, based on your usage of that quote from Avellone.
I think that this is an argument that is routinely abused and misapplied by those among us who favor specific characters over others. For example, a poster might be inclined to accept Tobin's testimony as the gospel truth and might justify it by similar, if not identical reasoning: His words are clearly intended to reflect the intent of the author and, to an extent, the official stance of the Lucas media empire. But when the historians of the New Republic come along and declare that a certain Sith Lord whose title isn't Nihilus is the most powerful Sith ever in The New Essential Chronology, that same poster seems equally inclined to toss it in the garbage heap.
My personal belief is that we need to apply the same scrutiny and standards to all fallible sources and their testimony and not give sources that we like a free pass.
Are you really asking this question?! Revan is descirbed as the most powerful jedi of his time. He's in the top ten EASY!!!! Any one who says that he's lower than the top twenty is CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't really see him as all that powerful. After all, he was taken out of commission by just two blasts of lightning from a sith who was done in by a completely random Jedi Knight..
Which is a terrible argument considering this random Jedi knight is said to be uber powerful. Plus, it's an MMO. If you watch the Jedi knight ending, you'll see that single powerful blast of force lightning took out 3-4 Jedi masters simultaneously.
I don't really see Darth Sidious as all that powerful. After all, he was taken out of commission by a smuggler Han Solo and a Jedi freak named Empatojayos Brand.
Seriously?
Now watch this:
Does this looks like normal burst of Force Lightning to you?
Drew described his power as a swirling storm of pure dark side energy.
And not to forget that Lord Vitiate is stated to be capable of unleashing full power of the dark side.
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He was still strong enough to defeat Leia and kill Ysanna.
However, he has been put out of commission in one of the worst ways possible. The mighty Palpatine eventually falls to a smuggler and a Jedi freak with a sucky name. Who would have thunk it.
Coming back to the real point:
Pay attention to the statement of truejedi. It is utterly baseless. The manner in which he put it undermines the capabilities of both Lord Vitiate and Revan.
No, such a statement is coming from the novel.
Lord Vitiate is stated to have unleashed the full power of the dark side on Planet Nathema.
He did it again against T3-M4, shattering it in to a million pieces in an instant.
I like your continual use of [b]Lord[/b[ Vitiate, as if he's some real person your referring to. It's not comical in the slightest.
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