LOL Hermes wasn't even knowing Thor was chasing him and probably wasn't going anywhere near his best speed or in random motion (more linear motion).
Also, chasing someone from behind has NOTHING to do with responding to a speedblitz for several reasons (like one is relative velocity). Thor blocking energy attacks and bullets are better feats than that.
Thor has no feats to show that he can respond to a speedblitz (not bullrush), other than blocking or slightly evading energy attacks from 30 or more feat away.
he had a hard time against Wolverine and says Wolverine is fast..Thor doesn't have super speed..it's not in his powerset..but he can fly very fast with Mjonlir..
Thor isn't a speedster in combat.
He's been eluded by cobra due to speed issues. He's been bewildered by Cap, outstruck by Cap. Admitted inferiority to Balder, couldn't contend with the speed of Mongoose who couldn't contend with the speed of Spiderman who out and out blitzed Masterson Thor. This isn't an example of one showing contrasted by an entire career of fighting and beating opponents who fight faster than Wolverine because of speed. Again this is the guy who routinely fist fights with Hulk, Herc, and Nafaria. He doesn't run around blitzing people.
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Last edited by jinzin on Jan 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 AM
And yet Thor also has plenty of showings depicting him as being able to move and react at super speeds.
He has been mentioned to move faster than the eye can see, move as fast as the lightning he commands, dig trenches at speeds that he is a blur, react to instantaneous mental attacks attacks, react to lasers and energy beams, mentioned to move so fast that he seems to be everywhere, move at dazzling speeds (what ever the shit that means) and so on and so forth. Hell, he was even able to dodge his own hammer.
Mentioning a bunch of low end feats does not cancel out his higher end speed feats nor does me, mentioning a bunch of his higher end feats cancel out his low end feats.
On average, he is fast enough to react to super speed attacks and bull rushes. If he doesn't block or dodge that initial super speed assault, he is durable enough to tack some hits and react and counter accordingly.
And yes, I agree, Thor to my knowledge, has never been shown to be a speedster in combat. IMO, he can react to light speed attacks and speed blitz, but move at those speeds? Nah.
Last edited by gogogadgetgo on Jan 3rd, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Yeah, this is kind of how I see it. He is capable of movement faster than the normal human eye can see (which isn't that fast anyway), but I don't believe he is capable of actually running faster than the eye can see, though his running speed would be superhuman.
I think he is capable of reacting to and defending himself against a classic Quicksilver-level blitz, but this is partly because he can tank a few blows while doing so.
But I really don't think Thor stands a chance against the crazy DC-level speedblitz, where the characters like Flash, Supes, WW, MM etc are moving so fast they are circling the globe in the time it takes a normal person to utter a single syllable of speech, or can evacuate an entire city in half a second carrying two people at a time, or basically carrying out entire conversations and fights while regular people are perceived as statues. Honestly, if Supes was launching a blitz of Kryptonian-level punches on Thor at that speed, Thor would be dead. And I say that as someone who is more of an Avengers/Thor reader (pre-Bendis) than Superman reader. Though I have read a lot of JLA and some Superman over the years.
I don't like the DC level speedsters that much because of this - they're just too ridiculous for the plots to survive without heavy PIS/CIS (though I do admit to liking those over-the-top Grant Morrison JLAs which featured a lot of that stuff).
u can't react to light speed attack if u don't have speed close or equal to lighspeed..and Thor doesn't have that kinda speed..not even close..it's ridiculous to think he can react to it..maybe he can in a comic..but this is a forum..
i know Thor perceptions is better than human..but lightspeed..seriously..even if he can predict the movement..he's not fast enough to tag someone who can move and think at lighspeed...they would just evade his blow..cuz he's moving far slower than them..
From what I've read of Thor, his combat speed always seemed impressive to me.
Says who? They're still subject to momentum (well Superman is at least), and if Thor is able to move any way quickly, he could very easily surprise them.
I disagree due to Thors history. If Superman fought effectively, Thor shouldn't land a hammer shot. I wouldn't put Thor combat speed over Mongul...you get the point.
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