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Symmetric Chaos
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Obama Seeks Power to Organize Federal Govt

The propaganda piece is here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...tion-fact-sheet

Apparently no one thinks Congress will let this go through:
http://www.federaltimes.com/article...CY04/201130307/

Essentially he wants the authority to reorganize the offices of the federal government but limited so that he can only reduce the size. I'm not sure why he even needs this power, Bush didn't have it, that I know of, and was able to merge a bunch of offices into Homeland Security. He says his first action will save $3 billion over the next ten years.


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Am I the only one who cringes when I hear things like "Will save X amount of billions over x decades"?

We're like twenty trillion dollars in debt now, aren't we? At one point we were spending something like 50 billion a month funding the wars in the middle east, alone. 3 billion dollars is a drop in the option.

That being said, obviously you have to start somewhere and it won't be an overnight thing of course. The propositions made so far by our people in power have just all seen so lame.


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all this will likely amount to is lots of reenactments of the 'people skills' scene in office space. perhaps its a move to eliminating useless favor jobs. one would hope.


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all this will likely amount to is lots of reenactments of the 'people skills' scene in office space. perhaps its a move to eliminating useless favor jobs. one would hope.
And Obama's going to need that report on his desk by Wednesday. Yeeaaahh. So if you could just get that to him by Tuesday, actually. That'd be great.


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Although I applaud this thread, since it creates discussion about current events in Washington, it's virtually irrelevant.

What you should have posted, is a thread about the bill that President Obama signed into law recently: the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).

Under the NDAA, the president of the US now has the authority to detain and arrest American citizens (indefinitely) - without due process of law guaranteed by the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Welcome to a brave new world, indeed.

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all this will likely amount to is lots of reenactments of the 'people skills' scene in office space. perhaps its a move to eliminating useless favor jobs. one would hope.


This seems to be one of the reasons no one expects the bill to pass. Too many Congressmen have too much invested in existing federal offices to let this through.


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Obama is working on his campaign. Can't trust shit he does. Doesn't even
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Nothing he says that he is going to do or is doing makes any sense.


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I say kick them ALL out and start from scratch again without any Republicans or Democrates. Start fresh with some new ideas. REFORM the whole government. Restructure it all.


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I say kick them ALL out and start from scratch again without any Republicans or Democrates. Start fresh with some new ideas. REFORM the whole government. Restructure it all.


Easy to say, nigh-impossible to do nor is it practical.


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Going on the same way we are now is NOT practical either. Nor is anything getting done.


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He said a lot of stuff when he was campaigning and turns out that a lot of those things were lies. So how can he expect people to trust what he says now? I wouldn't trust him.

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All politicians make promises during their campaign; some they fill, some they don't.

Withdrawing all the troops out of Iraq is one promise he's fulfilled. As an example.


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Withdrawing all the troops out of Iraq is one promise he's fulfilled. As an example.


That's not the promise he made.

It was withdrawing them like...in the first year or something.


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That's not the promise he made.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ades-from-iraq/

He never said his goal was to remove "all" troops, or even most of them, by 2010.


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Though you have to admit differentiating between combat troops and fighting troops is kind of a technicality.


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Sure, but "what was his promise" isn't. His 2008 campaign promise, IIRC, was "I want all nonessential military personnel out of Iraq by 2010" or something to the affect. That promise was kept.


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That's not the promise he made.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ades-from-iraq/

He never said his goal was to remove "all" troops, or even most of them, by 2010.


He said 16 months, not the first year. So I was off by 4 months.


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