the OT were family movies as well, simply because parents and children alike enjoyed them...not as a result of being shoehorned into a genre with cheap tacky sideshow distractions (ewoks excluded).
yup. 'special edition' that everyone hated. greedo shooting first, obnoxious cartoony in-your-face mos eisley scene, a midget pile of polygons that was supposed to pass as jabba the hutt, random unnecessary dewbacks, etc.
138 million vs the 50-60 million lucasfilm would be lucky to total in domestic ticket sales when all is done. AND with tickets nearly twice as expensive considering inflation + 3d theater markup.
point: it isnt doing well at all. adults have been turned off by the forced slapstick humor, lack of a clear protagonist and hero's journey...etc. even the kids are getting bored with it, and thats the problem with turning your back on your fanbase and pandering to small children exclusively. children are fickle and easily grow bored with straight-up kid flicks, especially when they get older.
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Yeah you see I dnt know if you remember or not but I do, The SW special edition was hugely hyped back in 1997. Everyone knew it was out and it was the first chance in almost 20 years to see the most epic sci-fi film ever on the big screen (the way it was meant to be seen).
TPM is nothing next to the Original SW. Im not gna pretend it is, but your point here proves nothing.
For a movie that according to critics (and what is a common joke) is supposed to be one of the worst movies ever made to have already made 80million for a 3d re-release 13 years down the line, with no where near the marketing SW special edition had, certainly says a lot.
It says people dnt hate that movie, and a lot of people actually like it.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 05:36 PM
I think even if it WASN'T in 3d it would still be generating the same numbers, and the same amount of people would be going to see it just because it's star wars and its on the big screen. Let's face it the 3D has little to nothing to do with people going to see it. We will have to see how the 3D bluray release does in terms of sales.
my point is it had the same stigma, if not more so.
thats your opinion. however on TPM millions of small children enjoyed that while finding the OT kinda boring. i know 'wtf' right? but thats how it was. i was pointing this out to illustrate the stay power of NOT pandering exclusively to that age group. they get older and lose interest in farts and poopoo slapstick, while even a broken and despised version of ep4 managed to triple its domestic box office earnings at almost half the ticket cost.
no, it made just over 30 mil. not 80. i projected 60 mil future domestic total and i was being very generous.
im not sure how that proves anything
some people liked battlefield earth too. does that make it worthy to consider as a cinematic triumph?
sorry but thats blind and baseless speculation.
Last edited by focus4chumps on Feb 24th, 2012 at 12:14 AM
What you're forgetting was there were whole generations who remembered and loved the Original Star Wars. Doesnt really matter that kids in 1999 found TPM more entertaining than the OT. Im sure they found Finding Nemo more entertaining than the OT as well. So what?
As for half the ticket price, it was released on all screens though, not just special 3d screens.
You also seem to be ignoring how incredibly well TPM did back in 1999 with those SAME ticket prices as the SW special edition.
Its made 80 worldwide. TPM was on a worldwide gross of approx 920 million before the 3d re-release. Its now passed the Billion mark. Do the math.
Lol Iv never met anyone who went on about how awsome Battlefield Earth is, but I do remember back in '99 despite all the negative reviews many many people left the cinema saying "that was awsome" after watching The Phantom Menace.
And comparing Battlefield Earth to a movie that became the second highest grossing movie of all time back in '99 is frankly meaningless.
Yeah because Marketing does nothing right??
So TPM teaser trailer 9 months before its release did nothing to help boost its revenue back in '99?
So a new Star Wars film could just be released without any marketing whatsoever and expect to become the highest grossing film of all time right?
Stop being crazy, and accept there are plenty of people who love the Prequels including TPM. We dnt need a re-release as proof of that, just look at the DVD sales. For all the prequels they were sold out on the first day of release.
Why would such terrible movies sell out? Was Battlefield Earth ever sold out on dvd??
Im afraid you're hatred of Lucas and all SW movies after ROTJ(assuming you even enjoyed that one) has made you the blind one, not me.
switching figures from domestic to worldwide and adding original box office gross is just toying with figures to support your non-case.
then you come up with the baseless statement that there wasnt enough marketing. pure puffery. i could go on about the hundreds of tv spots and product commercials with SW characters in cross-marketing promotions, but that would be anectdotal hogwash of my own.
i dont hate lucas. the OT came from that beautiful brain of his. however im deeply disappointed in his questionable and sometimes downright idiotic decisions in the 90's and beyond, especially his decision to alter and desecrate a vintage piece of american art and his most beloved creation. maybe you just cant handle debating a topic without....
indeed
because ad hominem = insta-win
Last edited by focus4chumps on Feb 24th, 2012 at 03:51 PM
80 million just for showing a 13 year old movie in 3d is not exactly bad. If it was such an appauling movie, then why's anyone bothered to watch it.
And you keep ignoring TPM box office earnings back in '99 and how hugely successful it was, how much the movie made in merchandise, and how the VHS and DVD sales were excellent.
Basically you've got no point.
Lol @ baseless.
If the special edition had as much marketing as TPM3D and and was only shown in a certain format, then you could make a comparison.
And you keep comparing to the Original Star Wars. The most epic fantasy film of all time. And saying because it doesnt compare to that its a flop??
If you cant see what a stupid comparison this is of yours then I cant help you. Its just a stupid debate.
Feb 23rd, 2012 03:20 PM
