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Robtard
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So it's the "we're ignorant of history", lol. Read a damn book.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
*raises hand halfway*

I know for a fact there are, but most of them know better than to flaunt it/display it openly.

Saw a documentary on it...there are some cases where they find Swastikas hanging in barracks next to the US flag.


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'd be surprised to find a whole neo-Nazi unit.


ya, fair enough, at the time I posted that I didn't have much more to go on than the photo. For instance, until I saw that the army had confirmed it, we really didn't know this was a single unit (rather than a collection of Nazis from different units or even civilians in army costumes). We didn't know how widely spread the image was, so it may have been something that people attempted to keep underground, etc.

Stoic's link gives a bit more context, though, I'll be honest, finding out that there were even entire units (10 individuals in this photo) that harbored sympathies for Nazis within the institutional military apparatus of the American government would be entirely unsurprising, imho.


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I'm not too surprised. Snipers are killers; plane and simple. They see the person they kill. It's personal. I'm not condemning them for that, but they do have that in common with the SS.


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I'm not too surprised. Snipers are killers; plane and simple. They see the person they kill. It's personal. I'm not condemning them for that, but they do have that in common with the SS.


also they both wore boots. and brushed their teeth.

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also they both wore boots. and brushed their teeth.


Sorry, but I think your comparison is stupid.


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Sorry, but I think your comparison is stupid.


quite a weird coincidence, cuz guess what i think about your comparison?

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Did you know that Nazis had respiratory systems? You don't want to be like Hitler, do you?


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quite a weird coincidence, cuz guess what i think about your comparison?


You can disagree all you wish, but at least I gave something that furthered the debate. Unlike boots and teeth.


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To be fair, they probably have a lot of things in common with the SS, but this serves what point here?


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To be fair, they probably have a lot of things in common with the SS, but this serves what point here?


Just trying to understand why would they take this picture with that flag. Ether they see some connection, or they just didn't know what the flag meant.


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None of those people had any part of ww2, "SS" is also the initials of their position in the military, the "SS" symbol is badass in that it is offensive and in your face.

I think this explains itself tbh


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'SS' may mean 'Scout Sniper', but specifically using the 'double thunderbolts' links to the Nazis.


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sure, they are badasses who just don't give a **** though

idk, the army's explanation does sort of reek of hand waving, etc, but a single picture does not a nazi make


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there will likely come a time when the SS logo is viewed the same way the Confederate Stars and Bars are now.

But until then anyone flying it is trying to make a statement or is just completely ignorant.

I don't think that out of an entire unit there wouldn't be at least one guy who understood the significance of the SS symbol, that's just idiotic. I think they knew what it was and used it because they thought it was funny or just to get attention and stand out more than scout snipers already do.


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I wouldn't at all be surprised if they just didn't know any better.

I'm more "enlightened" on most issues than the majority of people in this country, or at least I like to think so, but I had no idea the flag in that picture was a Nazi symbol until it was stated to be so. The Swastika is an iconic Nazi symbol. That looks like the type of symbol and font you would see on an AC/DC or Iron Maiden logo.

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I mean, for Christ's sake. It's more than possible that they just thought it was "badass".


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Buddhists and Hindus should take back the Swastika. Remind people that it was used for millenia before Hitler got his hands on it.


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Buddhists and Hindus should take back the Swastika. Remind people that it was used for millenia before Hitler got his hands on it.


He used it backward.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/piresrl/2113813034/


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You can disagree all you wish, but at least I gave something that furthered the debate. Unlike boots and teeth.



please explain how a single fallacious comparison "furthered the debate". i mean, it sure created another one, but not pertaining to the thread topic.

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Buddhists and Hindus should take back the Swastika. Remind people that it was used for millenia before Hitler got his hands on it.


Bam. thumb up



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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He used it backward.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/piresrl/2113813034/


Well, there are two forms of that symbol: the sauwastika and the swastika.

Hitler did not use the sauwastika. It was just the swastika. The expression of the rotation means two different things in the Hindu system.

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please explain how a single fallacious comparison "furthered the debate". i mean, it sure created another one, but not pertaining to the thread topic.


Please: the SS were entrusted with lots of the atrocious killings. His comparison is quite apt with a modern sniper whose job is to kill people.

He's calling them both "dogs" and you're practically raging, "NAY! One is a Bullmastiff and the other is an English Mastiff!"


At face value, what's the difference between entrusting American Military with special killing jobs and entrusting Nazi Military with special killing jobs? Oh, right... erm


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