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abhilegend
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Reflex speed.

Place these characters in order of reflex speed
Green Lantern (Hal jordan)
Flash (Wally)
Orion
Wonder woman
Martian Manhunter
Silver surfer
Superman
Thor
Quasar
Nova
Gladiator
Beta ray bill
What are the best reflex feats for these and what do you consider the best feat for reflexes IYO?


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Re: Reflex speed.

Tier 1

Flash (Wally)
Superman
Silver surfer
Orion

Tier 2

Green Lantern (Hal jordan)
Wonder woman
Martian Manhunter

Tier 3

Thor
Beta ray bill

Tier Dunno

Quasar
Nova
Gladiator


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Re: Re: Reflex speed.

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Originally posted by Placidity
Tier 1

Flash (Wally)
Superman
Silver surfer
Orion

Tier 2

Green Lantern (Hal jordan)
Wonder woman
Martian Manhunter

Tier 3

Thor
Beta ray bill

Tier Dunno

Quasar
Nova
Gladiator


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Though i would put Hal 1 lower or WW one higher. Gladiator is on SS tier imho. Quasar on Thors and Nova too, maybe one higher.


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It's been said WW's reflexes are faster than Superman's, because of her warrior training.


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Re: Reflex speed.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Place these characters in order of reflex speed
Green Lantern (Hal jordan)
Flash (Wally)
Orion
Wonder woman
Martian Manhunter
Silver surfer
Superman
Thor
Quasar
Nova
Gladiator
Beta ray bill
What are the best reflex feats for these and what do you consider the best feat for reflexes IYO?


Tier 1

Wonder Woman
Flash
Gladiator

Tier 2

Superman
Surfer
Martian Manhunter
Nova

Tier 3

Thor
Bill
Quasar
Green Lantern
Orion


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Re: Reflex speed.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Place these characters in order of reflex speed
Green Lantern (Hal jordan)
Flash (Wally)
Orion
Wonder woman
Martian Manhunter
Silver surfer
Superman
Thor
Quasar
Nova
Gladiator
Beta ray bill
What are the best reflex feats for these and what do you consider the best feat for reflexes IYO?


Flash is tops

Superman is second followed closely by Silver Surfer


Orion/Gladiator/Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter

Thor/Nova/Beta Ray Bill

Quasar/Hal

You maybe able to change some of these around cause I don't know of too many speed feats for Orion, I know sometimes he seems to be portrayed as Superman's equal but I think when the chips are down Supes is going to be the faster of the two.


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Flash is tops

Superman is second followed closely by Silver Surfer


Orion/Gladiator/Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter

Thor/Nova/Beta Ray Bill

Quasar/Hal

You maybe able to change some of these around cause I don't know of too many speed feats for Orion, I know sometimes he seems to be portrayed as Superman's equal but I think when the chips are down Supes is going to be the faster of the two.


flash is in his own league.

i think reflexively speaking diana may top kal, or at the least is in his class.

after that i'd say ss based on feats but he should be at least equal to kal based on powerset.

then glads and jonnz. not sure why orion is listed so highly. what feats does he have that indicate he's as fast as diana? anyone?

i agree with the rest of your list. thumb up


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Originally posted by carver9
Tier 1

Wonder Woman
Flash
Gladiator

Tier 2

Superman
Surfer
Martian Manhunter
Nova

Tier 3

Thor
Bill
Quasar
Green Lantern
Orion

Really carv, but its you so meh. For me its

Tier 1

Flash (Wally)
Superman

Tier 2

Silver surfer
Wonder woman
Martian Manhunter
Gladiator
Nova

Tier 3

Thor
Beta ray bill
Orion
Green lantern
Quasar
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Originally posted by Cogito
It's been said WW's reflexes are faster than Superman's, because of her warrior training.

Only mcduffie thought so, in Flash:Rebirth only kal was able to run alongside barry for awhile while everyone was left in dust.
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Flash is tops

Superman is second followed closely by Silver Surfer


Orion/Gladiator/Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter

Thor/Nova/Beta Ray Bill

Quasar/Hal

You maybe able to change some of these around cause I don't know of too many speed feats for Orion, I know sometimes he seems to be portrayed as Superman's equal but I think when the chips are down Supes is going to be the faster of the two.

Malefic laughed at orion's speed in Ostrander's run of martian manhunter.


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Going by fts, Wonder Wonder is faster than everyone here minus Flash.


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Going by fts, Wonder Wonder is faster than everyone here minus Flash.

What feats?


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This...

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...690_560x867.jpg

This...

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...639_500x801.jpg

This...

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...701_644x936.jpg

This doesn't include her tying up Amazo who had Flash powers before he could react. Superman didn't even see her move.

This also doesn't include her deflecting numerous of Amazo heat vision and he was amped off of Superman AND Wonder Woman speed. Wonder Woman reflexes is far better.


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Originally posted by carver9
This...

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...690_560x867.jpg

This...

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...639_500x801.jpg

This...

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...701_644x936.jpg

This doesn't include her tying up Amazo who had Flash powers before he could react. Superman didn't even see her move.

This also doesn't include her deflecting numerous of Amazo heat vision and he was amped off of Superman AND Wonder Woman speed. Wonder Woman reflexes is far better.


Did you really just show 3 scans of WW blocking bullets?

Really?


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Originally posted by Cogito
Did you really just show 3 scans of WW blocking bullets?

Really?


Naah, I'm just posting randoms for right now. The first one want bullets though. My last comment was more on detail on why I think Wonder Woman reflexes is faster..she also shocked Superman when she blocked his heat vision during a grapple.


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Originally posted by Cogito
It's been said WW's reflexes are faster than Superman's, because of her warrior training.


It was basically saying her muscle memory from her training allows her to not have to think before she makes a move, its basically second nature, but Superman compensates for this with his pure raw speed advantage. --It's not just in flying, but running, hand-speed, and perception speed too.

He has those advantages over Diana.

He has to think more when he throws a punch or kick as Diana basically says, but this is ok since his greater perception speed allows the gap to not be as big.


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Originally posted by carver9
This...

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...690_560x867.jpg

This...

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...639_500x801.jpg

This...

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...701_644x936.jpg

This doesn't include her tying up Amazo who had Flash powers before he could react. Superman didn't even see her move.

This also doesn't include her deflecting numerous of Amazo heat vision and he was amped off of Superman AND Wonder Woman speed. Wonder Woman reflexes is far better.

Really carv, did you count after-images for speed? This is getting sillier from you. Only the first one was any good, spidey has better feats than other two, it was red arrow who was narrating that in the comic not superman, flash stole that amazo's speed and does amped means HV was faster?
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/...BARRYALLEN2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/...BARRYALLEN3.jpg


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Really carv, did you count after-images for speed? This is getting sillier from you. Also
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/...BARRYALLEN2.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/...BARRYALLEN3.jpg


The last scan didn't work but the first scan had nothing to do with reflexes since they were flying. Wonder Woman has blocked heat vision from an empowered Amazo without even struggling. She has tied Amazo up before he or Superman even got the chance to see what was going on.


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Wondy has straight up busted into the Speed Force too.

That Shattered God scan Carver just posted displays Wondy deflecting fragmented shards hurling at her at light speeds from every corner of the universe. Pretty high end as far as reflex/hand speed goes.


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The last scan didn't work but the first scan had nothing to do with reflexes since they were flying. Wonder Woman has blocked heat vision from an empowered Amazo without even struggling. She has tied Amazo up before he or Superman even got the chance to see what was going on.

Really, that was to show that only superman was able to run alongside barry
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Does that mean superman's running speed>WW's flying speed?


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Really, that was to show that only superman was able to run alongside barry
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Does that mean superman's running speed>WW's flying speed?


How fast was Superman and Flash running because Wonder Woman has kept up with Flash as well. This isn't the only time she ran alongside a Flash. Hell, she ran to the point that she almost entered the speed force.

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...640_500x792.jpg

The league might just stayed behind so that Superman and Flash could talk. So that Superman could talk some sense into Flash.


Then we have this instance.

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/...69_960x1456.jpg

Superman looks pretty shocked.


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Originally posted by Konton
Wondy has straight up busted into the Speed Force too.

That Shattered God scan Carver just posted displays Wondy deflecting fragmented shards hurling at her at light speeds from every corner of the universe. Pretty high end as far as reflex/hand speed goes.

No, she didn't. She was piggy-riding Jesse with her lasso. Oh that scan of carv was of shattered god, wasn't she amped by the essence of the same god in WW v2 194? The same "lightspeed" fractions whom steve trevor was able to percieve and outrun for awhile, didn't he?


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