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What's wrong with X-Men: The Last Stand?
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Also, wtf happened to the Juggernaut's background story?
To be fair, implementing Cytorrak into the movies would have been really hamfisted and ****ing weird, since the X-Men movies were separate from the main Marvel movie continuity.


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And also they're owned by FOX its their universe.


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For those who didn't see my post in another thread, David "Solid Snake" Hayter, the guy who cowrote the other two X-Men movies was on the Bagged and Boarded podcast and talked about the original plot of X-Men 3. Basically, as foreshadowed in X-Men 1 and 2, the Phoenix would've been a result of Jean's exposure to Magneto's radiation at Ellis Island in the first movie. She comes back and sees that the government has passed something akin to the Mutant Registration Act on steroids. Antimutant violence is at astronomical levels and the government has started rounding up mutants into labor and extermination camps. She goes Dark Phoenix in response, with full flaming bird and everything and pretty much lays waist to everything in her path. The climax was supposed to be at in DC with her basically melting the mall and and vaporizing the entire US military. The scene with Wolverine still happens like at the end of Last Stand but instead of stabbing her, Wolverine is tossed aside like a rag doll.


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After Wolverine is tossed aside, I can only assume David Hayter in his sexy Solid Snake jumpsuit would then fight and best Phoenix in combat using superior h2h capabilities, before slitting her throat?


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I did not like this incarnation of the phoenix.
Bryan Singer (The director of the first 2 films) gave a perfect set up for the third film. ( The bird figure in the water at the end of the second film). It had everyone ready for THE PHOENIX that we are most familiar with. Then this "Brett Ratner" comes and pretty much scraps Brian Singer's blue print. I was very disappointed.


The good news is that Brian Singer has returned so that we may forget the atrocity that is "X-MEN: THE LAST STAND". It was honestly one of the worst conclusions to a trilogy I've ever seen.

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You used Bryan Singer in a positive light. Sorry, no dice.


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Re: What's wrong with X-Men: The Last Stand?

Well, the ending really sucked. Cyclops' death couldn't have been less ceremonious. He may as well not even been in the movie.

Really the whole second half of the movie seemed tacked on.
Poor writing and execution. If you're going to finish the trilogy, such as it was, it should have gone out with a real bang instead of falling with a thud.

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I read some were they had were if brain signer did x-men 3 that they would kill magneto in x-men last stand. in not sure if its true or not.

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Killing off 3 off the main and original X-Men just to have Wolverine save the day- is exactly what was wrong with this movie. A sad end to a whole trilogy that gave none of the X-Men (except Wolverine) the kind of role they deserved.

Terrible movie. Bad trilogy.

And btw I like Hugh Jackman and his Wolverine portrayal. Just don't like the way they made him the sole star of the entire trilogy.

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Yead, 'Darth Jello' said right


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he tried to kill him too though didn't she? But just just couldn't coz he kept healing hemself.


The Phoenix killed Xavier so easily just because Xavier trapped "her" inside Jean for decades. Xavier was her archenemy number one.
No wonder the Phoenix sided with Magneto in the aftermath.

We have no proof that the Phoenix truly killed Scott. Maybe he was put in suspended animation or coma. Anyway, since Scott is the "perfect X-Man" and the one most related to Xavier and Xavier's dream and modus operandi, I guess the Phoenix just hated him and so "she" killed him.

Wolverine was a rebel and an animal. He was an outsider and the "imperfect X-Man" so to speak. The Phoenix had some empathy with him and his feral nature. Jean held back a bit (she was starting to regain control? Maybe) and Logan's regenerative factor did the rest.

So there was NO contradiction in this at all.

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