Yes, she definitely isn't depicted as an uber cosmic entity. However, her(and Barry's) feat of recreating the DC continuum was much greater than I gave it credit for in this thread.
Curious to see the upgrade, though.
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Vertigo was never a separate universe/multiverse. All characters in Vertigo existed in the DCU new earth universe in exactly the same way with some VERY minor differences to their history- it's a time line thing, not a universe. Wildstorm I'll grant you
^ Flashpoint specifically portrayed them as separate continuities.
Battle-wise Mxy is well above everyone here except Owen, who even in his post-retcon form was able to achieve omniversal feats (but the down-side to him, is that he's established to be below abstracts who are <<< Mxy). And sure, HoM Wanda may as well exceed Mxy's power, but in a battle, she'd get stomped (just like someone like Tim, despite having multiversal-level warping abilities, would lose against a universal warper). Next comes MoD, who's above high end abstracts, but never showed any kind of casual multiversal level reality warping (he's significantly below Mxy)
The rest, no-one even comes close. Even assuming Legion has access to his most powerful personality (like Moria), she's a casual universal warper but not multiversal. Adult Frankin is established to be Galactus-level. Jamie Braddock is a casual universal-warper (capable of achieving multi-universal feats but not fully multiversal). Proteus gets destroyed in a microsecond (he has no place here). MJJ without his warp, would lose just as well. Destroying and recreating all DC realities in an instant, is well beyond any of those guys abilities.
Even assuming that Mxy goes down, Max even not tapping into his full potential was (potentially) about to destroy the whole omniverse, ZHP could have recreated a whole multiverse (though not on a whim), and Hourman (assuming he has the complete Worlogog) has multiversal level abilities as well (Dharma and bat mite are universal, Tim would lose in a battle, and Pandora is of no use here).
I think this is intended to be a battle, if it's a question who has more raw power, then it'll turn out differently (let me know).
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In a neutral ground, MJJ can't warp reality however he needs. It's only that within the warp he creates. Something like this for example (from the end of The Might World of Marvel v2 #9, pertaining captain britain):
MJJ's scale for the warp is confirmed to be omniversal potentially (stated on panel in the Jaspers warp arc) and then he returned in X-Men die by the sword, where he was merged with the fury, he was stated to be able to destroy all existence (the Exiles handbooks confirm that he threatened the whole omniverse).
But point is: in a neutral battle ground, he loses without a doubt.
^ Yes if we're equating the terms, because Max doesn't require that stipulation to warp reality. And let's all not forget that Max was capable of destroying the omniverse likewise, stated in Divine Right #7:
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