LoL, glad you agree that for Bauer to have a chance, he'd have to go in like he usually does, already armed and with massive intel from the CTU. He wouldn't have these luxuries in Die Hard; why he'd fail.
Of note, I just finished S4, I do recall how you mentioned how Bauer kicked ass in the Chinese Consulate and how McClane couldn't replicate that. LoL. Turns out it was just another one of your bauerbation fantasies.
Bauer was in direct contact with Tony via radio and Tony was holding his had and walking him through the compound as Tony had a schematic of the building, a satellite with infrared positioned over the compound, Literally telling Bauer when and where to walk and the exact position of the few guards on duty on a real-time basis.
McClane would have driven an SUV right through the doors, kidnapped the Chinese man and driven out, no help needed.
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Not how he entered either of those places
Stop ignoring simple logic. Bauer, less than 24 hours after undergoing 20 consecutive months of THIS:
Jack does THIS: 42:05-46:05. He had no contact with CTU or prep, as he just discovered the hideout. AFTER 20 months of torture. Still WTFpwned everybody.
Jack needs schematics and prep? Tell that to Nokavich
Note that was the second time he was stabbed in the abdomen that day and he still massacred the consulate. He has no prep and no backup from CTU or anyone, was stabbed in the abdomen twice, and still doled out headshots
Compared to that, you honestly think some amateur thieves and glass are going to pose a threat to him?
Do some McResearch
Once again, you are trying to strawman. The situation on Day 4 was a far more complex and dangerous situation than any McClane has undergone in any of the DH films, and McClane would have required the same amount, if not more help, unless you're honestly suggesting McClane could solo the 24verse ( ).
Once again, you're trying to strawman. Are you saying McClane wouldn't have needed the schematics? That he would have just strolled into the Chinese Compound and grabbed Hong? Lol no And, once again, Bauer has feats of him soloing consulates without schematics, prep, or intel, so your McBiased logic has failed you once again for the billionth time
Also, considering Bauer could have done the same "SUV thing", considering he did it before when he massacred Victor Drazen, that's nothing impressive.
In fact, it's stupid, because the point of the operation is that it's supposed to be clandestine, so McNutsack's crude tactics would fail him and end up getting a nuke detonated on the East Coast
Point was, you were wrong yet again with one of your claims and I suspect I'll obliterate these other claims as I watch the season(s) they're in. Give it time.
You're like 0 - 20 now.
If that's the case, then Bauer failed; failed miserably. As he was seen, one of his men was identified and the Chinese Consul died. Doh! Guess I'll accept your concession once again.
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I thought you said the point was proving McClane could survive the gauntlet
Yes. You caught me red-handed. I overhyped...........just like you did:
A draw. There you go. Give yourself a well-deserved pat on the back.
Now that we are done with that, let's focus on the main point of the thread, which is can Jack run the gauntlet? As shown by my previous post, yes, he easily can
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That pilot dominated himself McCrotch had nothing to do with it
As of the videos that I just posted that you are ignoring due to fearful McBias( ), any sensible person who watches them will say that Bauer wipes the floor with McClane's gauntlet (and then McClane himself...)
Man you really should watch DH1 one day.
The reason for McClane's purging was because of the dawning realisation that he was a shit husband who was beginning to realise that he might not get a second chance to right his wrongs.
And there were no Baueresque breakdowns of those proportions.
At no point did he cry cause he had to kill someone.
Your defence of Bauer's tears doesnt make sense.
If you're not a remorseless killer, its best not to get into the remorseless killer game.
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I'd give you the same advice, because for someone who swallows so much McSeed, you have some damn poor knowledge of the films
So essentially he realized he was an amateur who was in way over his head and might not make it? What a bytch!!
Yeah, Bauer would never break down and cry because he didn't know if he was competent enough to complete the mission. Only retarded amateurs do that
Because he's never been in the position of being forced to nearly kill an innocent teenager in one of the most horrible ways imaginable. And once again, if he didn't cry at that point, that just means that McClane, along with being an amateur, is also a despicable sociopath
You haven't seen the episode, so of course your simplistic McBiased brain doesn't understand the context. Don't worry though, you can watch the scene for yourself right here: 16:13-19:00 , and hopefully the last surviving brain cell buried beneath all that McBias in your noggin will be able to comprehend it
Yes. Bauer isn't a sociopath. Congratulations for proving that
Killing an innocent teenager in one of the most horrific ways imaginable. Once again, only a despicable sociopath would be unaffected
You better get a few boxes. McClane's gonna need them when he has another panic attack about whether or not he's competent enough to perform his mission and starts crying because it's too much for him
Don't worry, there's 276 people who Bauer has no remorse about
I know that blowing Bauer has crusted your senses, so we'll overlook your wrongness here.
He had a realisation that he was a shit husband...but went on to ruin all badguys involved..so thats cool. Everyone is entitled to a moment of self questioning.
Yet he would piss himself like a girl and die soon as a member of the elderly ranks even so much as glances in the direction of a taser.
"Hey who you calling amateur" would be the only response you'd get from him on that, probably.
Not bad spelling for someone so willfully or incompetently moronic such as yourself, O'Felcher of Tazervictimboy...
More nonsense. You bragged about a couple of hundred people you say he killed with no remorse. Yet somehow when he unleashes wussjuice from his eyeholes, hes suddenly NOT sociopathic? Oh dear...
So he struggles with the tough decisions....? ok....
You say that as if there was actually a first time.
See what I mean? You are not even faintly aware of the irony of your statement? lol Reeks of your desperation.
No surprise though to anyone following this 'debate'...
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More downplay, the pilot did what he had to do, he had orders to take out what he was told was a usurious terrorist threat; due to McClane's antics, that $200,000,000.00 war-machine ended up as scrap. McClane win, no matter how you downplay.
You know I'm watching and enjoying the series, I don't want spoiler. As I told you, I'll get to those seasons in time and will obliterate your points then and there as I have flawlessly done with your Bauer hyping and exaggerations four seasons in a row now.
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Considering you practically look like a Krispy Kreme mascot with all that McSeed leaking out of every orifice and pore in your body, I'll overlook your McBiased overhyping and downplaying of events
He had that realization because he was reminiscing about his life because he thought he was going to die. He had doubt in himself and questioned his own competence to handle the situation. Real amateur move right there
Even more hilarious because he was crying because he didn't know if he could handle amateur wannabe-terrorists whom Bauer would slaughter wholesale in the time it took McClane to make his pathetic "Tell My Wife!" Speech
No. He'd break their neck and spit on their corpse for wasting that precious nanosecond of his
Yep. Heartless bastard. He'd probably violate his own daughter if given the chance
Not bad comprehension for someone so full of McBias that they sweat and bleed it. For a moment there, it seemed you weren't gonna get past the first morpheme.
Yes. You see why he is a far more complex and badass character than McChump
Yeah. McClane wouldn't be able to make them
There was. I just posted it.
you aren't faintly aware of the basic literary elements of a complex character arc
No. I'm pretty sure the stench is your rotting credibility , which leaked out with blood, McSeed, and everything after you and McBaldHead decided to turn things up after seeing Magic Mike.....
You're damn right about that. Everyone on this board knew of your McBias far before I even joined this forum. So no one's surprised that you are ignoring common logic to try to say that McClane is better than a guy who clearly massacres him in every aspect of life
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He did not have orders to fly under an overpass that he clearly saw was crumbling. You can't ignore his stupidity when it's so blatant. You would need massive amounts of McBias to ignore such blatant evidence
It's definitely a case of "Epic Pilot Fail", rather than McWin, especially since McChump had nothing to do with it, no matter how much you try to overhype
Don't worry. I have your crow cooked and ready to be served. Come and get it
I'm sure McClane masturbates to that picture every night. I don't even want to know how you got it ......
LoL, wut? He had orders to neutralize the target, what he was told was a terrorist threat. I could just as easily say "he did not have orders to not fly under the overpass." Stop downplaying, McClane obliterates threats, it's what he does, doesn't matter if it's a $200K helicopter or a $200Mil war-machine.
I've yet to "eat crow" from your previous "Bauer did this!!11!" claims; four seasons in a row now. I highly doubt I will in the next four. Duck's egg, bro.
Re-posted due to someone's chronic need to downplay McClane:
PS, this thread isn't about McClane, once again. I do realize that you need to constantly try and move the focus to "McClane failed!!!11!!" in some Micky Mouse attempt to shift the focus from Bauer's shortcomings/the topic.
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Already proved Bauer would plow through the gauntlet here
Whether you wish to follow your McBias and ignore the blatant evidence I just posted, or follow common sense and logic and realize that McVillains are something Bauer can effortlessly handle, it's your call.
LOLOLOLOL Well naturally you would indeed have to overlook a hypothetical arising of a tactic, should it arise (which it hasn't), as you overlook our own constantly with quasi-comedic regularity..
Nope. Its a human thing. And it looks like the winning way too, by actual, bankable, usable MVF screenfeats. (The kind Bauer has none of yet.)
You have no proof of this claim.
And as we all know Bauer wouldn't be able to cope. (especially without Tony and the rest of the entire CIS force.
Hmmmmm....why did he allow himself to get tazered to death then?
He has literally no chance of surviving that what caused an old lady's lapdog in the DHverse to limp for a week.
Strange speculation of yours... You could have just said, "He would knife a nun in order with no remorse to save the day" or something. But nooooo you had to lower the tone further.
I know McClane was raised a Catholic, technically, but still, that was a low speculative blow. Again...desperate of you.
Wise.
Except he could.
Doesnt count cause of....you know.....MVF rules.
I am indeed. They have little relevance here in the DH verse. The minute Bauer takes time to get all introspective and lookatmelookatmelookatme over it its another tazering from tazerlady. You hatered of Mcclane blinds you constantly to the fact that the only issue at stake here is can Bauer make it through the DH films...and the answer is a great big tazerfried, Tonyless "NO".
No my "Cred" is fine. Its that your nose is too close to the bullshit pile you have spewed forth all over this thread.
And that Bauer crust is deepening all the time. The reacharounds you give him are pretty safe though: When he gets tazered to death again, the charge will barely tickle you, as only a small tazer charge is enough to kill him as he is weak and pathetically under equipped to run this gauntlet, as proved over and over again here.
This is very very hard for a devout fanboy such as yourself to take on board, so you will be spewing more and more self-embarrassing untruthery and butthurt attacks on Mcclane in lieu of convincing argument. I call it now: and it will happen. This is why I'll be re-quoting this in a minute.
LOL There is no bias. And all logic has been observed and upheld. Ive said before that Mcclane is defeatable. "Everybody" knows that and "everybody" knew of your infactuation with Bauer via your sig and avv stuff. What they didnt know about was your vast capacity for butthurt and vaccous, vicarious emulation of old posters long gone. Well they are aware now.
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Except it isn't hypothetical. Your nonsensical McBiased tactics are so blatant that they are impossible to overlook
Not something proficient counter-terrorists do....
False, as I have posted numerous times:
I guess the McBias overflow has spread to your tear ducts now, since you obviously must be unable to see
Strawman. To answer that, he was restrained in an inescapable position that McClane wouldn't have been able to extricate himself from either
More hilarious McStrawmannery . You have literally no chance of rescuing your credibility from drowning in a deep vat of McBias unless you can prove McClane has a slight chance of surviving 20 months of electric torture
I'm just trying to reach that brain cell. Maybe if I hit you deep enough, I can get past that near impenetrable layer of McBias to the logical part of your mind
Why? You are saying he would be perfectly fine allowing an innocent teenager to die horrifically. You have to have no conscience to do such a thing and sleep fine at night. But like you said, McClane would only coldly respond with an (incorrect) "I'm not an amateur". Your words. Like say you say here:
Clearly a sociopath. Combined with the fact that he is a mass murderer, I wouldn't want him around my children. No telling what other impulses he may wish to indulge....
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I thought you said the point was proving McClane could survive the gauntlet 
See what I mean? You are not even faintly aware of the irony of your statement? lol Reeks of your desperation.
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