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Originally posted by Pwned
Becuase the "mindless slave" thing is because he is a Wound, as the Exile does the same thing, she just doesn't subjugate her companions (its probably something to do with whether or not they fell to the Dark Side, but I am not qutie sure) while TK to hold a ship together in hyperspace would require quite a bit of effort, no matter how strong they are (because one slip up and it gets torn apart as soon as it drops out, because obviously there is no friction in hyperspace) So it may just be my personal belief, but I think that to hold that thing together he actually had to extend some amount of concious effort.

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Originally posted by Pwned
Becuase the "mindless slave" thing is because he is a Wound, as the Exile does the same thing, she just doesn't subjugate her companions (its probably something to do with whether or not they fell to the Dark Side, but I am not qutie sure) while TK to hold a ship together in hyperspace would require quite a bit of effort, no matter how strong they are (because one slip up and it gets torn apart as soon as it drops out, because obviously there is no friction in hyperspace) So it may just be my personal belief, but I think that to hold that thing together he actually had to extend some amount of concious effort.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
The implication is that something petty like holding a ship together during space travel is so minor to Nihilus he barely notices he does it.

That's part of Nihilus's character, he is such a Force aberration that his presence alone holds a great deal of power, being around him saps your will and makes you a mindless slave without any effort on his part.

Why should holding the ship together be much different?

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Originally posted by Zampanó
N.'s telekinetic preservation of his ship during acceleration on interstellar magnitudes is, in my opinion, one of the greatest control feats in the mythos. His liberation of the Ravager from Malachor's gravity well is one of the greatest TK feats, in the realm of hundreds of thousands of units of force (i.e. Newtons).

Any post that downplays his ability is going to draw a response from me; the line "minor" should never be applied to his TK feats, because they are kind of a big deal.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
You harping on about how Nihilus shouldn't be able to do that while also draining planets and fighting or whatever really only emphasizes Nihilus's power.

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da rulesBranching off from that, I do not tolerate people saying 'You're a fanboy' as if that automatically renders everything obsolete and ends the argument. Earth to Debators, it DOESN'T. I will take it as a form of bashing and deal out warnings.

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Originally posted by Pwned
The problem is, the only thing we know about Nihilus is that he could do it. We don't know how, and so its hard to debate against him. I mean really, I doubt anybody could do that without some form of Sith ritual or other power fueling them, but I can't say that as evidence because there is none. All these Nihilus threads come across, to me, as a bunch of fanboys of KOTOR 2 wanting their favorite villain to win, same with Traya. So me saying this stuff is really only trying to point out that its not the complete stomp some people think it is, and that he is not all-powerful. Plus I enjoy disagreeing with the majority. Sue me.

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The implication is that something petty like holding a ship together during space travel is so minor to Nihilus he barely notices he does it.

That's part of Nihilus's character, he is such a Force aberration that his presence alone holds a great deal of power, being around him saps your will and makes you a mindless slave without any effort on his part.

Why should holding the ship together be much different?

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Originally posted by Arhael
The fact that he couldn't consume a mandalorian, nor mind dominate him does not support your claim.

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Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
What's annoying to me is that most everyone seems to have a problem with Sidious' uber feats, but when it comes to Nihilus it's "oh well he is a force of nature, that's apart of his character". Well I call that bullshit. Nihilus is still a force using mortal; he is not a god, and he can be out-smarted by less powerful individuals and even killed.

Since everyone is throwing out what they feel is the intended message for Nihilus and making their case for him, I'm going to make my case for Palpatine:

Both the movies and EU seem to imply that Palpatine is the ultimate dark side user and it's living conduit. In his published literature, Matthew Stover constantly refers to Palpatine as "the shadow" or "the darkness", and Dooku even goes on to explain how looking at Palpatine through the force was like looking into a black hole, perfect nothingness. Not only does Palpatine have one of the greatest wills in the mythos but he also seems to have had a deeper connection to the dark side than any other sith before or after him. The Plagueis novel makes it very clear that Palpatine had a very deep connection with the dark side since child hood, way before becoming a sith. It's no wonder he is immensely powerful. Hell, the DE endnotes says that he is no longer defined by his physical form as of DE, but has become a dark side nexus so powerful that he can literaly rip holes in the fabric of space. If any sith lord deserves uber feats, it should be Palpatine. He is after all "the greatest evil the galaxy had ever known" (The New Essential Guide to Characters). The greatest villain being the most powerful villain is nothing new to pop culture, so what's up with all the complaints about Palpatine being the most powerful? It seems fitting to me.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
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Originally posted by NemeBro
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