Byss was an extraordinarily potent dark side nexus, which could very well explain Luke's defeat there and victory aboard the Eclipse in the absence of such a miasma of dark energy.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
And?
Luke lost control and snapped out of it, preferring to let Caedus escape and threaten lives on a galactic scale with his madness. Not terribly heroic, but such is his fear.
My argument is extremely well founded and more reasonable than the idea of Desann and Kyle Katarn, neophytes in the Jedi arts, being superior combatants to someone whose natural Force talents exceed theirs and who has trained far longer. Besides, the whole "speculation and circumstantial evidence" line can be such a double edged sword, can't it?
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
With all due respect - if Desann had gained the power of the Valley of the Jedi - he would have become invincable.
That would mean the certain destruction of the galaxy and the Dark side taking over everything.
All those things go more directly against what Luke believes - and they threaten the family he loves so much.
He didn't try to turn back Desann during the duel either.
He literally had no reason to not kill, or at least mercifully knock out Desann, if it were within his abilities.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Caedus tortured Luke's son, murdered his wife, and threatened to kill Jedi children and still Luke let him walk. I'm not defending the rationality of Luke's decision, I'm explaining to you that his stubborn habit of extending mercy and eschewing aggression since his tenure as the Emperor's apprentice is something that has transcended multiple books and authors across decades of in-universe time.
Likewise, with all due respect, there is no reason to believe that Desann or Kyle are superior combatants to Luke when they lack his power and training.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
Then he and Nihilus finally have something in common.
Good night.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
__________________ Major Valerian
A few years back we, teh people of teh forums, considered DE Sidious as the most powerful Sith Lord ever
Nephthys
He still largely is. Nihilus or Traya may be able to defeat him in a fight (may), but only due to their completely broken Drain. That isn't a representation of power. Other than that there really aren't many who legitimately challenge him.
Luke.
Learned his lesson in fights with Palpatine.
No Master and Padawan relationship, therefore no restraint.
Bane is without Obralisk.
Battlemaster, try harder.
By the way. In actual fight with Jacen Luke went all out on him. He recklessly tried to make instant kill. Only after Jacen was knifed on the floor, Luke refrained from killing him for fear of son learning bad example.
Last edited by Arhael on Jun 2nd, 2012 at 04:32 AM
Jun 2nd, 2012 02:40 AM
