I really don't see Dooku fairing to well against sorcery attacks that he's never had any chance to prepare for. He's certainly not weak by any means, but not seeing the illusions coming or knowing what the tendrils could do, especially if Zannah mastered the technique, I don't forsee him walking away.
I think she'd be capable of defending herself well enough to keep Dooku away until she was prepared to unleash on him. We shall never know, but if my life were riding on the outcome I'd be on the sidelines cheering Zannah on.
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Because Zannah only won because of a Deus Ex Machina.
She was his equal, no doubt about it. But only against other people. Against him, he could slaughter her, as was shown when he was winning the saber fight, beat her sorcery, and nearly killed her before a tentacle got his hand. And he still nearly won. Part of his essence was probably left behind (A lot of people I know think that Bane actually came out on top, but there were some side effects making him believe he was Zannah, because of her arm twitching. I think its just because he came so close that a part of him was branded into her)
Still though Bane is many orders of magnitude better than Dooku, and even if Zannah wasn;t really "better" than Bane it's made clear that she was extremely powerful and was going to become more powerful and was close, and she did beta him. I also noticed on this forum that people like to write things off just because they occured on dark side nexuses for example. Just being on a darkside nexus doesn't instantly make you extremely powerful if you don't have the raw goods. Dooku was on darkside enxus on Vjun and he didn;t do anything that powerful, and was getting beaten by Yoda.
Outside of a saber fight alone (and I only say this because Zannah uses Soresu and I am of the opinion that any master of Makashi beats the Soresu practitioner, whoever it is, almost 10/10 tiomes) Zannah is realiscially many leagues higher than Dooku in power and combat.
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The only reason she won was because she created tentacles out of the darkside energy of Ambria. She was getting trashed otherwise. But I agree that she should be above Dooku.
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Does anyone remember how much time passed between when Bane escaped calebs daughter and when he faught zannah? I think it was only a day or two, and from what i remember the few days before the fight took a huge toll on Bane, and he wasnt even close to 100%. First was his trip to the deep core and on his way back home he pushed himslef pretty hard to break annadues holocron and was exhausred, then right when he got home he was ambushed by the huntress and 2 dozen mercs. Then he was drugged and tortured by calebs daughter, then he had to escape and while still messed up from the drugs he had to fight Zannah without his light saber. in my opinion if Bane was 100% he would have dominated her. As for this fight I'd probably give Zannah the majority especially since as someone pointed out before dooku couldn't counter mother talzins magic so I doubt he'll have much luck against zannahs, and her defense is top notch, so she should be able to prolong the fight long enough to to get an opening to use it.
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The saber footing is tilted in Dooku's favor, certainly, but not that heavily.
Yes, Zannah is primarily a Soresu practitioner, however she also received extensive training in the other styles in order to better be able to teach her apprentice. She won't be like Kenobi, not knowing Makashi in the slightest. She knows many of the movements of makashi and would be capable of fighting aganst it. Especially since Dooku can't use his size or weight against her, as he isn't that big, she would not be forced into Soresu (Which, as you probably know, she primarily used Soresu because she is very small (I saw somewhere she was supposed to be like, 5'2 and have a slight build. Not sure on its validity))
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Obi-Wan knew more than just Soresu, he also mastered Ataru and used elements of Shii-Cho and Niman. Dooku as well knows more than just Makashi, he taught Grevious all 7 forms. Dooku was also able to stalemate Yoda, and it was said that before he left the Jedi Order he was one of only two able to beat Mace Windu.
Of course, but the Reach-part is important. If he can use his reach to attack her offending limbs, he can control the duel comfortably.
He doesn't even need to overpower her physically.
Then again, that's probably a Makashi thing, anyway.
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The point I was trying to get across was that Kenobi doesn't have the same amount of general mastery that Zannah does. Zannah could use all 7 forms effectively, but she pursued Soresu beyond the others because of her physical size making it the most advantageous. Whilst Kenobi perfected Soresu, mastered Ataru, and added in Shii-Cho and Niman. It leaves him much more specialized than Zannah.
Jun 19th, 2012 10:55 PM
