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Originally posted by biensalsa
This just ratifies, you have the award.

btw, Superman wins in a very close fight IMO.
Personal attacks are a sign you can't debate.


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Personal attacks are a sign you can't debate.


It is not my fault, I already gave my opinion, but you can comprehend it.

Well maybe is a little bit of my fault because of my English which BTW You, mentioning my English is in no way shape or form is a personal attack. big grin


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Originally posted by biensalsa
It is not my fault, I already gave my opinion, but you can comprehend it.

Well maybe is a little bit of my fault because of my English which BTW You, mentioning my English is in no way shape or form is a personal attack. big grin
You don't make any sense.

Hulk wins.


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Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't make any sense.

Hulk wins.


Um... you said I'm using personal attacks because I can't debate.

Well I just pointed out at you doing a personal attack complaining about my english.

Most people online would not bring that up unless they feel the need to use personal attacks.

You will have to use something better, because I have a thick skin for that particular personal attack.

Superman wins wink


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Originally posted by carver9
Superman is millions of Times stronger than Thor huh?
How many times is hulk stronger than base level savage hulk? And how many times is wbh stronger than Thor?

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A high end superman is stronger than everyone, an average superman is equal to thor.

So yes an wbh is stronger than an average superman.

Superman still wins though.


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Originally posted by biensalsa
Um... you said I'm using personal attacks because I can't debate.

Well I just pointed out at you doing a personal attack complaining about my english.

Most people online would not bring that up unless they feel the need to use personal attacks.

You will have to use something better, because I have a thick skin for that particular personal attack.

Superman wins wink
Based on what does Superman win ?

Hulk's a peer to Superman pre HOTM anger.


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There is nothing special about comics that allows it to ignore logic that can apply to any hypothetical fictional discussion.

They are all subject to the same kinda tropes and character dilemmas and procedure where you argue viable feats and try to eliminate bullshit stuff that doesn't work.

I get all that you are saying. But again, its pointless to what I'm saying.

As I said, this in-character speed argument angle is never able to give an answer to a completely basic question.

Again, answer this to me honestly, if Superman DOES decide that he does want to use his speed as well as he could (and this is a very realistic possibility, seeing as CIS-Less Superman does not really get represented in comics), how could Hulk possibly win?

Seriously, if you could just admit that there is an avenue for Superman to win 10/10 if he simply did something as basic as not be retarded, then this argument could end, and you can go back to the in-character arguments (even though its not relevant to this thread anyway) without me ever bothering you about it again.


It's like you're trying to make me argue AGAINST Superman.

Thanks, dick.

Seriously though, your argument would hold more weight if Superman's reflexes were portrayed consistently in comics, when they aren't. They're fluid under a lot of writers, accelerating when needed.

"Not being retarded" is a completely invalid way of looking at it, tbh.

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isn't NE superman's most powerful blow (using his speed) the shadow moon buster? if so speed kills, yes, but it won't be the guy he slams into.

not sure if he can hit someone at faster speeds than the one in that instance.


No, but I'm not sure if you're serious.


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Originally posted by carver9
I sure did say Angrir and Colossonaut could one shot reboot Superman. He didnt have the fts during that time of me saying this proving that he could withstand a blow from them at full force.


lol. Nope. That wasn't the context AT ALL.

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Originally posted by carver9
If Savage Hulk is stronger than Thor and WWH is stronger than both (by a significant gap) but WBH is far above WWH, where does that put Thor since you are saying that Superman and WBH are physically comparable. By the way, I am not the only person that remember you saying Supes is millions of Times stronger than Thor, people point it out all of the time.


I know h1a8 has stated something to the effect that Superman is a million times stronger than Thor, but I believe he no longer believes that.

They probably said it because they heard it from you. If you or anyone else can find the quote of me saying it, I will leave the site forever. How's that for a bet? But if you can't find it in 3 months, you leave forever.

I did say that based on WM Thor's showings, Superman was at least ten times stronger than Thor. Based on feats, that's a hard statement to disprove. Durability-wise, the comparison between Superman and Thor is even worse.

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
A high end superman is stronger than everyone, an average superman is equal to thor.

So yes an wbh is stronger than an average superman.

Superman still wins though.


Is Superman stronger than Thanos? how about despero?

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No, but I'm not sure if you're serious.
i actually do want to know. i can't recall a fiercer blow from him off hand, and that instance had quantifiable elements.


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i actually do want to know. i can't recall a fiercer blow from him off hand, and that instance had quantifiable elements.


Him crashing in to a moon (which is more a durability feat according to some) is the best striking feat you've seen from him? Not killing Doomsday, breaking Darkseid's arm, one-shotting heralds at various times, or splitting a moon?


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Hulk destroys him. If you don't know why, read the reboot. New 52 puts most Marvel characters out of Superman's league.

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Hulk destroys him. If you don't know why, read the reboot. New 52 puts most Marvel characters out of Superman's league.


Sorry. Didn't specify that it was pre reboot. Just thought it was assumed.


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Interesting vids ,pretty cool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbizTBYs-rQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDBNB2hk5t0


Pretty good animation on those.


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Sorry. Didn't specify that it was pre reboot. Just thought it was assumed.

Unless specified we go with what's canon. Or do you do things differently than on every other forum here?

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Unless specified we go with what's canon. Or do you do things differently than on every other forum here?


No I thought people wouldn't be dumb enough as to think I'd put a basically featless superman against the most powerful version of Hulk ever? Thats what I mean by assumed.


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