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Omega Vision
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Or "of" and "have"

An example of this kind of glaring mistake? Is it a British thing?


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I read that they still need to confirm that this new particle has a spin value of 0 before we official confirm that it is the Higgs Boson. Probably is though, so hurrah for the completion of Standard Model of particle physics.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
An example of this kind of glaring mistake? Is it a British thing?


Seen it hundreds of times on this forum...People thinking that when you physically say the contraction of "should have" into "should've" it sounds like "should of" so that's what they type...Idiots.


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Seen it hundreds of times on this forum...People thinking that when you physically say the contraction of "should have" into "should've" it sounds like "should of" so that's what they type...Idiots.

Ahh. Yeah, that is annoying.

Your/you're is also vexing. Imagine someone warning someone with "watch you are back"

And "I could care less" in place of "I couldn't care less"


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I read that they still need to confirm that this new particle has a spin value of 0 before we official confirm that it is the Higgs Boson. Probably is though, so hurrah for the completion of Standard Model of particle physics.


They'll probably want to confirm that it has the right charge and parity and all kinds of other vastly more obscure things that the Standard Model predicts about it before they're satisfied.


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And "I could care less" in place of "I couldn't care less"
This one always irked me. The contractions I can chalk up to typos and carelessness, but that phrase was just poorly thought out.


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Realistically though, the only way you could stamp out those kinds of mistakes would be to institute totalitarianesque reeducation camps.

And even well-educated people occasionally have slips--I catch myself speaking solecisms all the time (though I usually self-correct...aloud...it confuses some people when they see me doing it)


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They'll probably want to confirm that it has the right charge and parity and all kinds of other vastly more obscure things that the Standard Model predicts about it before they're satisfied.


It is supposed to have no color charge, as well.

As I understand the results, it was surmised that it is the "particle they were looking for" due to how massive it is at at the energy state they were looking. So the properties do go largely unconfirmed.

But, based on where they found their results, they are pretty dang sure (apparently).





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THE HIGGS BOSON IS ITS OWN ANTIPARTICLE!

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And even well-educated people occasionally have slips--I catch myself speaking solecisms all the time (though I usually self-correct...aloud...it confuses some people when they see me doing it)


I do this, as well. I can write a 10 page paper in a few hours with no mistakes but can't have an IM convo longer than 10 minutes without a mistake. Something about the internet makes them stupid.


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Curious, how do anyone reach the conclusion that this disproves God?

To call it the God particle is a bit misleading. It doesn't disprove God.

The Higgs particle is a component in the Higgs' field which is a theorized field in the standard model that through various Lie couplings — depending on the particle — attributes the particles with mass. It's all very basic, and I'll be glad to answer any question you have regarding the matter. Because I like flexing my intelligence.

But it would be comfortable if there was experimental verification of it. If we've actually discovered it then I'm curious as to the method employed, I'm looking forward for the article.

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I think it would cost billions in order to make sure no one in the world ever mixed up "there", "they're" and "their" again.

Or "of" and "have"

Or any of those stupid mistakes that make me want to kill people.
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Ahh. Yeah, that is annoying.

Your/you're is also vexing. Imagine someone warning someone with "watch you are back"

And "I could care less" in place of "I couldn't care less"


Your both really close minded. I could care less weather that offends you, you should of some decency! Their is just a lack of respect in your posts.


Put one in for good measure.


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I know all that, I was just perplexed how anyone would say that discovering a Higgs boson would disprove God...


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
God requires faith.
Evidence of God's existence disproves him.
The Higgs Boson is made of God.
Thus we found God.
Thus God does not exist.


Lol, the Babel Fish argument, I like it!


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I know all that, I was just perplexed how anyone would say that discovering a Higgs boson would disprove God...

This is Symmetric Chaos we're talking about, even when he's not intentionally fooling around what he says should be taken with a pinch of salt.

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Ahh, I didn't know that that was a factor, I don't usually venture outside the Video Game section of this forum (only came here as it is fun seeing how non-physicsists reacted to this).


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Your both really close minded. I could care less weather that offends you, you should of some decency! Their is just a lack of respect in your posts.

Put one in for good measure.

This reminds me of when someone got annoyed with me when I typed: "who're" instead of "who are" because it reminded him of "whore".

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It is supposed to have no color charge, as well.

As I understand the results, it was surmised that it is the "particle they were looking for" due to how massive it is at at the energy state they were looking. So the properties do go largely unconfirmed.

But, based on where they found their results, they are pretty dang sure (apparently).

Eat all the cupcakes because...

THE HIGGS BOSON IS ITS OWN ANTIPARTICLE!


CERN says they know what they found is a boson as well which narrows things down a lot. A few physicists have said that there are dozens of candidates that are bosons with roughly that mass but the Higgs is considered the most likely due to its pedigree.


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CERN says they know what they found is a boson as well which narrows things down a lot. A few physicists have said that there are dozens of candidates that are bosons with roughly that mass but the Higgs is considered the most likely due to its pedigree.


It was the the energy required and 122? (I have seen 133) proton masses properties that I was talking about.


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It was the the energy required and 122? (I have seen 133) proton masses properties that I was talking about.


Oops, there was supposed to be an "also" in there. With the mass and the type of particle they were able to narrow it down to the Standard Higgs, several Higgs variants, or a few fringe ideas.

Its huge and its the right kind of particle so they're fairly confident. It has to be 133 since its 125 GeV and protons has a mass of less than 1GeV. In looking this up I found that the particle the found is SEVEN times as massive as a water molecule. That's insane.


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I was curious what you two meant with 122 and 133, then I Googled it and found out that it Wikipedia describes the energy of these particles in proton masses of those numbers.

If you have any actual questions regarding the standard model of quantum field theory, then I'm your guy.

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I was curious what you two meant with 122 and 133, then I Googled it and found out that it Wikipedia describes the energy of these particles in proton masses of those numbers.

If you have any actual questions regarding the standard model of quantum field theory, then I'm your guy.


You're my guy regardless of that.


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