Back on Krayt vs others, one of Krayt's strengths is the mutual KO. Unlike most fighters, he doesn't have to win without being hurt. If he can only get a hit if he lets a lightsaber pierce his torso, that is fine. He'll get back up, and his opponent won't.
@ Lucian: I don't think its as illogical as you say. He just anchored himself to the floor of the ship he was on. The SMBH is just an example of how immovable he was.
As much as I hate to take sides here, I'd have to say this seems pretty darn likely.
I've encountered this discussion in other Versus forums all over the net, and they all say it's Hyperbole, too.
Someone could always write Troy Denning and ask if he was being literal with the passage or not, though.
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I alsothink it was hyperbole as it would make Luke kind of unstoppable wouldn't it and he clearly isn't. So either hyperbole or some kind of "in the zone" state, imo.
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Or, you know, Luke is actually powerful. 'Cause he is. I find it strange how you take statements such as this, things being straight out stated, and call it hyperbole, whilst taking other statements far more vague and calling it fact. I really wonder.
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No it wouldn't. It would make him the most powerful sunofabitch around. Which he generally is regarded to be, considering how he reached the same amount of power Anakin could have achieved.
People don't want Luke to be that powerful for some reason. They try and downplay everything he has ever done.
Neph has a point there. Nothing stops him, and most stuff is just an incovienience to how he should be if PIS and CIS were gone.
It doesn't have to be often, if it happens at all. Luke is put into bad positions many times after that fight takes place. In his fights with Lumiya, Caedus, and even less powerful people he does not come across as invincible, and against Abeloth he is clearly much weaker. The Ones are powerful but they not that powerful bro.
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Apart from blackhole it mentions Lando's asteroid tuggers, and Megador's sixteen ion engines. Seems like examples that couldn't move Luke. In any case the implication was that no Force user would be able to move him at that point, not even someone empowered by millions of killiks. And, yes, it seems like he was in the zone as at that point he had perfect clarity and confidence in his mind.
Gideon made a convincing argument that it was hyperbolic. Lucien, though not nearly as intelligent, made an adequate case.
But the fact remains that UnuThul was being empowered by the Force potential of [millions? billions?] of Killiks. That is to say, the telekinesis he was resisting was so far above what the vast majority (if not entirety) of the Force adept pantheon could bring to bear that it could very well not be hyperbolic. The engines of a star dreadnought and black hole may be in fact the only accurate measuring sticks of the kind of force Luke defended against.
No doubt just like Vitiate dominates hundreds of Sith Lords at once, or kills his entire Dark Council by himself, yet loses to a Knight and his trusty Astrodroid.
Or Sidious tears the surface off of worlds, yet Leia can knock him over like a senile OAP and Han can shoot him in the back.
The Starkiller can take on the Emperor in direct combat, yet struggles against a single Red Gaurd.
No, but Force Gods are generally immune to PIS. Nothing dumb ever happens to them.
Short of very particular and extremely potent attacks, the kind of power Luke demonstrates at the end of the Swarm War would be sufficient to defend against standard attacks from pretty much anyone bar Abeloth.
Yes, Lumiya and Caedus all deal tremendous damage to him in their respective duels. Of course, it also depicts that Luke is more than capable of simply pinning his Force-powerful enemies effortlessly and against their wishes, so go figure.
Jul 9th, 2012 09:38 PM
