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Zack Fair
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Gotta say in some regards it makes a lot of sense for Superman and wonder Woman to be together.

There aren't too many people who can really understand what it's like to be a practically indestructible insanely powerful person.

Not to mention them being alien to mankind.

Jim Lee's WW is ...

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Johns did say he wants it to last a while, so IMO what he has to do is actually give them a reason to want to be together other than being alone. They need common interests, to be able to talk to each other etc.

It's not like the sex is going to be an issue, so they have to work on other things.

It depends on where they decide to go with each character. I haven't read much Superman and nothing of the New Wonder Woman yet so how much are they like their previous versions?

I could see a good writer balancing their personalities out to match each other pretty well while still keeping them distinctly Wonder Woman and Superman.

Plus they already have one major common interest. Being a superhero for justice!!!

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Not to mention them being alien to mankind.

Jim Lee's WW is ...

Yeah if I could find a real life girl that looked like Wonder Woman in those scans that's I wouldn't need anyone else big grin

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It depends on where they decide to go with each character. I haven't read much Superman and nothing of the New Wonder Woman yet so how much are they like their previous versions?

I could see a good writer balancing their personalities out to match each other pretty well while still keeping them distinctly Wonder Woman and Superman.

Plus they already have one major common interest. Being a superhero for justice!!!

they're not radically different. Superman is a bit less "homely", in that he's not as experienced or grown up as the pre-reboot version. Diana seems close enough to her previous version too.

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You are right; it's not impossible. A decent writer can make it work; I just hope Johns is that writer.

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It's all a setup for Barry to steal her

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It's all a setup for Barry to steal her

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It's all a setup for Barry to steal her

She'd break him in half.

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So I read the new issue, and I don't get it: What exactly is the 'secret' of Superman's suit.

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They still haven't really told us, sadly.

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I'm just waiting to see how long it is before Superman knocks her up.

Just a coincidence that she's not a clay golem anymore? Or part of a plan?

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It looked like Captain Marvel is going to be fighting WW and Superman eventually. They better not make CM seem above Superman.

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It looked like Captain Marvel is going to be fighting WW and Superman eventually. They better not make CM seem above Superman.

Billy will do all right, but I very much doubt Johns would make one look superior to another.

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It looked like Captain Marvel is going to be fighting WW and Superman eventually. They better not make CM seem above Superman.

If anything, they'll probably be portrayed as peers physically with magic being the x-factor Billy has over Clark.

Which is pretty much in line for almost every Superman/Captain Marvel encounter ever. Nothing to get preemptively angry or annoyed with, though.

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Will Superman take a dive this time too?

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Well, some people seem to think DC has this agenda to make Superman less powerful and formidable, so who knows?

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Well, some people seem to think DC has this agenda to make Superman less powerful and formidable, so who knows?

With Matt Idelson and the like involved, I honestly wouldn't be surprised.

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Seems counter productive to actively plot against your flagship icon and the biggest name in the industry.

I won't argue against Superman being handled in terrible stories (some of them have been bad, even before DCnU, obviously) but a concentrated movement to actually make Superman look bad? Doesn't make sense. It makes more sense that writers just don't "get" the character or don't give a shit than actually wanting him to fail.

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Well, some people seem to think DC has this agenda to make Superman less powerful and formidable, so who knows?

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Seems counter productive to actively plot against your flagship icon and the biggest name in the industry.

It's not so much me and others "thinking" that they have that agenda, as it is the Superman line editor himself, Matt Idelson, stating it.

And as far as he's concerned, he's not "plotting against" Superman - he actually thinks that seeing him weak, beaten and self-doubting will get people who didn't like him before to like him now.

So it's not really bad intentions, as it is the fact that he's a complete and utter incompetent idiot.

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It's not so much me and others "thinking" that they have that agenda, as it is the Superman line editor himself, Matt Idelson, stating it.

And as far as he's concerned, he's not "plotting against" Superman - he actually thinks that seeing him weak, beaten and self-doubting will get people who didn't like him before to like him now.

So it's not really bad intentions, as it is the fact that he's a complete and utter incompetent idiot.

He's actually stated he believes portraying Superman in a position of weakness will get people behind the character more?

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