Abhi is using 10 seconds. You introduced the "conversation rule". You actually wanted to use 20 seconds which is twice as asinine but I wanted to give you a little credit.
Well I don't remember. But if I said I took a stopwatch then believe me I did. I did this in order to not report false information. I don't want to be shown up now.
Something happening during a conversation can be quantified very accurately.
Except the conversation happened BEFORE they traveled. W/c makes your entire gesture of "accuracy" entirely pointless and seems to point out to you not reading/understanding the scans properly before coming up with your crazy theories (not the first time).
Where did the indication that they were near Oa come from? Then there's the part where the GL's knew the plan and let the Superman's go, and everyone caught up with them shortly after... including Martian Manhunter. Martian Manhunter is in the quadrillions of times the speed of light category?
And going by sectors, Earth's sector is 2814, and Krypton's sector is 2813. So according to the previous math used, they traveled a sector. In the then, and now Non canon Birthright series Krypton is 2.2 million light years away. In NuDC it's 27 lightyears away.
And considering the sector that was previously clung to, and Birthright being non canon, it seems the current location was the one kind of being used back then. And they already traveled quite a distance before the Supermen attacked.
Or, the most likely one is that Johns didn't give a shit about the length.
are you implying they traveled the majority of the trip prior to hitting warp speed even though that's when their position from their desired destination is stated?
No! That it took a long time just to reach ftl speeds. Or 15-20 seconds for the entire trip I guess. I don't remember what I was arguing to be honest. It was one of those though.
"Sheesh! Slow down, willya Surfer. I'm still weak from Jump-starting you"
My evidence:
"Hold on tight, we're about to enter warp speed"
The only thing your "evidence" proves is that they were traveling "fast" and generating momentum that makes it hard to hold on relative to Mar-vell's weakened grip. Meaning they could be traveling at sub light for all we know.
Mine proves that the point where they accelerated to the speed needed to cover the distance they travelled (w/c narration even goes ahead and further supports with the statement: "galaxies streak past them in a blur" "But before the minds of these two cosmic powers have a chance to comprehend..." meaning this all happened w/in a very short period of time and not while they're having a conversation) happened AFTER the conversation as Surfer stated that they were ABOUT TO enter said speed.
Stop trying to save face. You read the scan wrong (again), accept it and move on.
Pretty much that. John's really wasn't giving a shit and even if we analyze the feat, it's nowhere near the numbers Abhil came up with (Seriously, how the hell do you jump to that number?).
Based upon the fact that they traveled to sector 2813 from near sector 0. We can measure up the distance as by the estimation that the visible universe was divided in 3600 sectors. I doubt Johns was using that map when he was writing that scene. Only vega star system isn't charted and that's nothing compared to the rest of the universe.
Well do you have on-panel evidence that points out to the distance? Outside of creating your own speculation on what kind of map Johns used when writing the story I mean how do you even calculate the distance now?
What exactly was the distance then? And how did you extract it from your scans?
Ppl aren't trying to lowball, it's just that the scans you provided gives very little proof of your Quadrillions times lightspeed claim.
It was just the matter of dividing the radius of known universe with the known numbers of sectors i.e 3600 and multiplying with the sector number of krypton i.e. 2813. I already said that it was a rough estimate. But when people like bran throw meaningless scans and try to act like that proved something, its clearly lowballing. I mean what was the point of the scan? Also why would GLs from across the universe would make their last stand around nowhere and not near Oa where they could protect it better?
So we're of the opinion that they were near Oa based on no proof at all? I don't follow.
Even if they were, the scan Rage showed, proves it doesn't matter, as Earth sector is right beside the Krypton sector and they're all pointing towards Oa.
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