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For me, that was due to the larger cast, most of which was quality.


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Part II was a great, great(that's 2 "greats") film. Definitely my favorite animated comic-flick to date-- I give it 5/5 stars.

I was actually surprised DC allowed so much violence in this movie. That is likely what set it so far apart from anything else in the genre... Not to mention that the animation, storytelling, and voice actors were nearly perfect as well.


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I was actually surprised DC allowed so much violence in this movie.


Mutant Leader didn't kick Bruce in the nuts in part one sad

Haven't seen part two yet.


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It was good but this isn't better than Under the Red Hood.

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Just watched Mike Matei's review of the two movies

http://cinemassacre.com/2013/02/06/...tains-spoilers/

changed a few things from the graphic novel (Which i haven't read myself) and with that, some things with these animated movies seem confusing.


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Finally saw them both last night. Enjoyed them very much. Tho i never enjoy Supes losing to Bats


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I really, really hated this, seem to be in the minority though.

I enjoyed Year One a HELLUVA lot more.


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Haven't seen it yet. That good huh?


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Haven't seen it yet. That good huh?

I liked it, it was much more grounded in reality than Dark Night Returns, and much more character driven (a lot of time was spent with Commissioner Gordon and his wife's relationship as they first move to Gotham).

Some Batman fans seem to think it boring, but I like some of these more grounded, less action-intensive stories from Batman, the ones with normal gangster villains, corruption etc.

Frankly Dark Knight Returns felt like a long sequence of "jumping the shark" scenes to me, and everybody seemed to act out of character IMO.

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I really, really hated this, seem to be in the minority though.

I enjoyed Year One a HELLUVA lot more.


You do realise that both TDKR & Year One animations were based on graphic novels, written by the same person?

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So he couldn't enjoy one story over the other?


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You do realise that both TDKR & Year One animations were based on graphic novels, written by the same person?
I don't really understand the relevancy here, I don't have to automatically love or hate all things from the same writer confused

Also I haven't read the original TDKR, just seen the animated version, so I don't know if they created new problems not present in the original source material.

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Well...straight up, my opinion's gonna be biased.
I was in my mid-twenties when the graphic novel was released & at the time it was considered & labelled as, "The very first comic, written for adults."
Frank Miller's rendition of The Batman was praised as "The Bible for the Batman Universe." Countless writers afterwards respected the notion that this would be how Batman's future would become & wrote their stories to hint both at his retirement & senility. Even Miller's "abstract" art was viewed as both a pleasant change & a challenge to the clean cut, conventional/cliched illustrations of other heroes at the time.

So to finally see an animated version that follows the storyline BUT tones down Batman's senility & suicidal monologue... is in my opinion
a bit of a disappointment but at the same time enjoyable & tame enough that I can watch it with my 7 yr old son & not deal with issues of "Why does Batman have a death-wish?"

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I really, really hated this, seem to be in the minority though.

I enjoyed Year One a HELLUVA lot more.


Gonna try to watch Year One tonight and it better be good!!!!!

How did you like Under the Red Hood?


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I watched both parts together and did love them both, it was awesome


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Gonna try to watch Year One tonight and it better be good!!!!!

How did you like Under the Red Hood?
I enjoyed Under the Red Hood. Definitely worth watching.
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I watched both parts together and did love them both, it was awesome





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How did you like Under the Red Hood?
It was ok, but I didn't really enjoy it that much tbh.

Spent the whole film thinking the writer was trying to make a name for himself by retconing one of the most important Batman stories simply so that he could tell a very by-the-numbers story which didn't really add much to the Batman mythos in comparison to what it had undermined.

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It was ok, but I didn't really enjoy it that much tbh.

Spent the whole film thinking the writer was trying to make a name for himself by retconing one of the most important Batman stories simply so that he could tell a very by-the-numbers story which didn't really add much to the Batman mythos in comparison to what it had undermined.


The past was altered cuz of Superboy Prime shattering reality in the comic. They couldn't really go that route in the movie tho. BTW i saw Year One and enjoyed it very much tho i like the others better. Maybe it's cuz i like the Joker so much.


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So does this open the possibility of all of Miller's Batman being adapted? Spawn/Batman was pretty good. DK2 and All Star/Dark Knight Boy Wonder are more controversial though, what with these being the books where he really regressed into fascism.


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