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NemeBro
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1 ton? How amazing. Thats supposed to compete with 600 tons lifting? Cool story. It's an outlier feat then basically marked with PIS since he never replicated anything like that. Even when he trained on 100X Earth gravity he only weighed about 10 tons.

> Says the 600 ton feat is an outlier feat, despite the existence of far better feats, like Tao throwing the pillar a thousand kilometers, Goku jumping multiple kilos, or being able to fight at hypersonic speeds while under a hundred times Earth's gravity.
> Entire argument for a lack of Goku's strength relies on constantly bringing up exactly one feat which puts Goku at less than 40 tons, that is contradicted by most of Goku's feats.
> Doesn't see irony in this.

Shut up.

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What is Goku's best physical showing anyway?

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The best off the top of my head is kicking Freeza through two islands.

IIRC there are better showings, but I can't remember them honestly.

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Might have thought it would have been the training at 100 times gravity thing.

Then again, I are bad at maths.

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300 times for Vegeta.

Gotenks has Town level strength, and Goku is something like 1/8th as strong as him.

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Is there a being on panel that has destroyed a planet with a single punch on panel? Also, who has replicated Goku ft of kicking frieza so hard it destroyed two islands and sent him thought the crust of a ocean.?

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300 times for Vegeta.

Gotenks has Town level strength, and Goku is something like 1/8th as strong as him.

Goku punching ft was better and it had to be above town leveling since its a body that is producing this amount of force. Who has punching fts similar to a DBZ character involving collateral damage.

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Goku's was through two x sized islands, Gotenks hit Buu with so much force that he destroyed a town-sized volume of rock.

Urm I dunno... Namor and Thing?

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Goku's was through two x sized islands, Gotenks hit Buu with so much force that he destroyed a town-sized volume of rock.

Urm I dunno... Namor and Thing?

Scans? Namor or Thing never punched anyone with that type of force. Destroying two islands is more impressive imo.

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You think that was a confident claim with scans? Nah, just guessing from what their strength level should let them do.

Ill look into the size/damage of both feats in a sec.

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Tsk. Fine Carve you got this one. I'll read more Dragon Ball instead of Just Z so I can argue the point better.

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You think that was a confident claim with scans? Nah, just guessing from what their strength level should let them do.

Ill look into the size/damage of both feats in a sec.

They don't have it. Not even close and I'm a Namor fanatic.

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Throwing Titanic sized ships at a decent speed should put his energy output as a low percentage of Town level, Thing is stronger than him so.. -shrugs-

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Throwing Titanic sized ships at a decent speed should put his energy output as a low percentage of Town level, Thing is stronger than him so.. -shrugs-

Lol...so now you want to reverse it to lifting fts when destroying two islands with a single kick is far better? Thing isn't stronger than Namor based off showings.

Didn't Piccolo lift Pyramids (I think it was 4 of them) with his mind while meditating at a power level of 350? Namor isn't even as strong as the weakest Z fighters during their early of age. Also...lol at Thing being as strong as Goku. Kid Goku would probably one shot him.

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Thing has leveled plateaus while fighting Ironman.

That's his best punching feat that I can recall.

All Star Superman punched a planet into another dimension.

Superboy Prime with the Guardian Amp shattered a planet by flying through it (Flying while also throwing a punch would produce much more force than flying alone). Superboy Prime also claims to be able to do similar in Infinite Crisis, and the heroes take his threat as being very real.

Thanos and Drax destroyed a planet by punching the shit out of eachother.

All but the Thing feat are better than any DBZ punching feat.

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Lol...so now you want to reverse it to lifting fts when destroying two islands with a single kick is far better? Thing isn't stronger than Namor based off showings.

http://www.manga-access.com/manga/D...all/chapter/310

The islands weren't destroyed.

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Didn't Piccolo lift Pyramids (I think it was 4 of them) with his mind while meditating at a power level of 350?

Noncanon.

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Thing has leveled plateaus while fighting Ironman.

That's his best punching feat that I can recall.

All Star Superman punched a planet into another dimension.

Superboy Prime with the Guardian Amp shattered a planet by flying through it (Flying while also throwing a punch would produce much more force than flying alone). Superboy Prime also claims to be able to do similar in Infinite Crisis, and the heroes take his threat as being very real.

Thanos and Drax destroyed a planet by punching the shit out of eachother.

All but the Thing feat are better than any DBZ punching feat.

Thanos and Drax destroyed a planetoid and their were circumstances involved and half of the planet was still intact.

All Star Superman hurt a planet which made it bfr itself to another dimension.

Superboy Prime flew through the core of a planet which made it ignite and blow up. Majority of these fts arent even punching power fts.

I was asking for punching power.

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Thanos and Drax destroyed a planetoid and their were circumstances involved and half of the planet was still intact.

All Star Superman hurt a planet which made it bfr itself to another dimension.

Superboy Prime flew through the core of a planet which made it ignite and blow up. Majority of these fts arent even punching power fts.

I was asking for punching power.

You're retarded.

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You're retarded.

You are still cool with me Nemebro.

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Thanos and Drax destroyed a planetoid and their were circumstances involved and half of the planet was still intact.

I'll actually admit that I could be wrong about this one specifically, since I'm not a big Thanos or Drax buff.

What were the circumstances?

And frankly, destroying half a planet physically is still much greater than the best punching feat in DBZ (Which belongs to Buutenks, by the way).

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All Star Superman hurt a planet which made it bfr itself to another dimension.

Read that yourself. He physically beat up a planet.

Better than DBZ.

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Superboy Prime flew through the core of a planet which made it ignite and blow up. Majority of these fts arent even punching power fts.

I was asking for punching power.

He flew through it so fast it exploded.

Not every fiction operates under bullshit planet core chain reaction nonsense like DBZ, prove that is what SBP did.

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