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Originally posted by Dolos
Superman should be a trans-herald 'Evolver' Class.

A few other beings evolve, they are like Adapters, except Superman's evolution is the result of random mutations from yellow sunlight as oppossed to his opponents.

He's also an anomalous brick/speedster hybrid, he is among the top notch of super hero hierarchy in today's depiction of the Man of Steel. He could rival the ferocity of his former comic dom depiction in the 60s and 70s.

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Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
Since a lot of people reference them as "Superman Types" or "Superman Clones" couldn't they be classified at "Supes"?

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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I am not sure if here is the proper thread to talk about this, but here it goes.

Something I have noticed is that people tend to base power levels based on the brutality of an attack.

For example Sentry ripping Ares, is not that Sentry in siege is defacto more powerful tha Thor just because He rip Ares body is just that BOTH characters have the potential to do it, just one decides to not hold back and he is being brutal about it.

Hulk for example is a brutal character, everything he does is brutal because he is just mad, wolverine is another character who tends to look brutal.

Ultraman, Superboy Prime, those are character who do not have the self restraining rules like others and to top it off they are just brutal.

In many cases they end up looking more powerful than their piers, but imo they are just being displayed in a brutal manner.

It does not mean that characters that are more self restrained like Thor or Silver surfer or Superman cant do those feats, it is just that this characters are not brutal with them. They could even go all out and still the brutal character ends up with the more shocking feat and it has nothing to do with power level but with how brutal or self restrained a character could be.

To give an example of this.

Imagine comparing the brutality of mike tyson vs the finesse of Ali.

Or the brutality that characterize Kimbo Slice in his you tube fights and his success in MMA vs the success of a less "brutal" and more technical George St pierre.

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Originally posted by -Pr-

Clarification of CIS

Ok people, here are the finalised rules as regards PIS, CIS, and everything related to it.

PIS is, as always, off unless the thread starter says it's ON.

CIS, as was said before, is now a more diverse term, but is not as vague as before.

While CIS still exists in the form of characters like Rhino (who are just too stupid to know better), it also exists in one other form.

This is known as Character Inhibited Power. This applies to characters that have intelligence, like the Silver Surfer, Superman, and so on and so forth.

As Bada said:

"It's a self imposed limitation in certain circumstances which there is concern for civilians and buildings for the most part. It's not stupidity, it's a limitation set until the threat exceeds a certain threshold."

What this means is that people like the Surfer and Superman and so on will not use the full extent of their powers if it will endanger civilians. It doesn't, though, mean they will fight like idiots. The character's personality is an integral part of the match and dictates how they will perform. This is the crux of the rules we've come up with. It doesn't come down to powers, it comes down to the man or woman that weilds them.

In accordance with this, several factors come in to play in debates:

The Opponent, Basic Information, the Arena and the Character's Personality and Experience

Those four are key.

Example:

If Martian Manhunter fights say, Juggernaut.

MM doesn't personally know Juggernaut (Opponent). So he has Basic Information. This is categorised as being what the general public would know about the Juggernaut. It goes by averages. If that average man or woman on the street knows that Juggernaut is super strong, then MM knows. The average man or woman doesn't know, however, that the Juggernaut is weak against psionics. J'onn would approach with caution, not knowing whether Juggernaut was in his weight class, and not knowing the full extent of the man's powers.

However. If Martian Manhunter went up against Amazo, he would know to go for broke right at the start, because he KNOWS Amazo (Personality and Experience). He will use his speed, his strength, his shapeshifting. This is because if he knows what it takes to bring down Amazo, or he believes his standard attacks won't work. If J'onn was fighting Juggernaut, there would come a point when he would realise that normal attacks won't work, and would up his game. Any character that doesn't suffer from Rhino-esque stupidity is capable of this. Even with this, though, the Arena comes in to play. If civilians are in danger, J'onn won't shapeshift in to a fire breathing dragon. Juggernaut on the other hand doesn't care, so wouldn't hesitate to toss cars and trucks full of civilians at the Martian.

Examples:

Thor knows he can't out-brawl Hulk, so uses exotic powers sooner than he would against the likes of Superman, as Superman is an unknown to him.

Superman would go all out against Doomsday or Despero because he knows how powerful they are. Against the Hulk, he's going to take a few punches before realising he'll have to use something rather than slugging it out. He won't bathe the street in heat vision either, because there are civilians nearby.

It ALL comes down to the CHARACTER, not the POWERSET.

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Originally posted by Badabing



Also, Cap 2 >>> Thor 2. It's now canon for this thread.

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Originally posted by Mindset
A+ work.

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Originally posted by Rao Kal El

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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Ass kisser

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Originally posted by Mindset
A+ work.

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Originally posted by Mindset
A+ work.

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Originally posted by Rao Kal El

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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Ass kisser

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Originally posted by Mindset
A+ work.