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You've failed to prove anything as usual, Quan.
Firstly, at close range 'too fast for humans to perceive' is what, 90 mph? Lol'd. Ganondorf casually avoids arrows in the hypersonic bracket.
Secondly, again you're only example of something other than the MS hurting Ganondorf is optional gameplay damage during the second fight out of four.
Optional < Canon cutscene
The only thing out of the long list of things he's hit with that puts him down is the MS, which Russell lacks. Without any sort of sacred weaponry or impressive strength Russell cannot hurt Ganon, he's too slow to do anything about Ganon, and he's not durable enough to take a hit from Ganon.
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The Triforce of Courage is seen to harm Shadow Beasts, as are Wolf Link's teeth. Shadow Beasts are unphased by rock busting explosives. There is clearly a magical element to Wolf Link's bite.
As if this is relevant to the Master Sword incinerating Russell.
Well he said they are magic, and that Russ' advantage is sucking him quicker.. think he should stick to hand impalements.
But yes, this is Link. Link defeated Zant > Zant is like a amped version of Bill > Bill is above Warlow > Warlow is above Russell as much as Russell is above Eric.
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It doesn't work when the variety changes, it doesn't change much here. In-verse older vamps are stronger, faster and gain better powers. The age gap between Bill (~8,000) and Russell (2,850) is that of himself and Eric (1,100), almost triple the age so Bill would do to Russell what Russ does to Eric. In-verse if you can defeat Bill you can defeat Warlow and definitely Russell.
Bill would overpower Russell, not enough to compare to Zant tipping huge rocks with stomps.
Bill would be tagged by but overall faster than Russell, likely faster than a supersonic Zant.
Bill retains normal vamp durability, nothing compared to Zant non-fatally taking Link+Ball&Chain hits.
Bill has TK, small time compared to Zant's stronger TK, teleporting and reality warping.
So yeah. When the only difference in favour of Bill is a somewhat speed advantage compared to strength, durability and powers.. I can use Link defeating Zant in h2h as to compare Link vs Bill.
...and thus Russell.
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What do you believe the Triforce of Courage will do ?
False. You can't beat a faster, stronger vampire because you beat a at weaker one. It's like saying I can beat up a 15 year old therefore I can knockout Mike Tyson.
False but neither here nor there. Not starting another mini debate.
Where are you coming up with this crap ?
Bill can heal and Zant cannot. Zant dies. Most of it is gameplay anyway.
Bill is too fast much like all TB vamps. Link and Midna tagged and killed him.
No, you cannot. All of these vampires are just on another level speed which the Zelda characters cannot account for.
No.
Russell can slap his head off before he even can register what is happening. At least it is over quickly.
Zant is not Link. Zant uses sorcerers not strength as his greatest asset. Russell is faster than both and has actual combat feats which carry more weight than unquantifiable lifting feats.
Russell is faster than any of them. Link needs aid to save him from arrows. Awful reaction and speed. Link needs a horse while Russell is faster than Link on horseback.
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You can claim all that and it will never change that Russell cannot hurt Link or survive Link drawing his sword. Link doesn't need to stab Russell to win, the fact that he easily could is just icing.
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It damaged a beast in the cutscene just by being there. Wolf Link is formed by the ToC, both proven to already hurt them with W.Link being a superhuman-wolf.
No but you can beat a weaker one by beating a stronger one. Say what you want, the TB age rule says that an 8,000 year old vampire is above a 2,850 one. The very proof being both his advanced-with-age powers, the sheer fear and hopelessness every knowing vampire felt about Billith/Lilith's blood and the fact that Russell himself became high off Lilith's blood and saw her as above him. So yes, beating Billith means beating Russell. Every vampire holds Billith as the most powerful vampire.
..the game showing us such? Strength is an order above Billith's, meaning Link has faced a character much stronger than Russell.
That attack is the only way to get past that part of the fight. Zant canonly has the durability to take Link+Ball&Chain strikes, the same attack that sent that huge ice chunk across the room. That is far above being injured by human strength, meaning Link has faced a character far more durable than Russell.
Zant's can teleport/dodge Link's attacks. Even without Mach 1.1 arrows and just using Link's in-game attack speed (Mach 0.7), Zant would be approaching supersonic, meaning Link has faced a character with speed rivalling Eric. As Russell is only a slight faster than Eric, he is a slight faster than Zant/Link's reactions. Not a great difference, less impressive with the arrows.
No mention on the massive power gap, which makes Zant more challenging than Billith.
Oh yes, I can. As you have confirmed for me here, the only thing you can say that Russ has over Zant is speed because this is literally the only argument you could possible make.
Zant with strength, durability and powers above Billith (Russell's superior), with the speed of Eric (who managed to tag Russell). Can have your possible slight speed advantage, because Zant's bringing in everything else in barrels and crates for Link to still smack down.
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You have no proven he cannot hurt Link when we have seen far less ko or injure him. Tk has put him down as well. Not really impressive and arrows which move far slower than Russell can hurt Link as well as swords.
Russell can disarm him or behead him before he even registers what is happening to him.
superwolf Link or whatever you want to say still lacks the feats of Russell so whatever. At the end of the day he is far less impressive than Russell especially according to feats and speed.
Bilith is not Lilith as he did not have all of her blood in him. Russell has the strength to hurt him since Sookie and Eric were enough to at least stake him. Russell is fast and powerful enough to kill Bilith who is not Lilith.
Link is stronger than Zant. Bill is stronger than Zant. Russell is stronger than Zant. Eric is stronger than Zant. Zant is not Link. Abc logic when comparing two separate characters is horrible logic.
Gameplay mechanic as it is a boss fight. We know Ganondorf gets tagged with the sword left and right as per gameplay mechanic. We know the sword hurts him just as we know the ball and chain hurts Zant. Canonically their defeats are already pre decided to the game developers.
Your speed estimations are horrible. Being over twice Eric's age does not mean slightly faster. Not at all. M
Bullets>>>arrows. Not up for discussion.
False. His healing ability and strength is also above his.
No, Zant could not beat any of these super powered vampires.
Link does not have the perception to deal with vampire speed but he does to account for everything Zant brings to the table. Versatility does not equal for formidability.
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Aug 13th, 2013 07:00 AM
Cool, he can suck the fastest.
