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Nah, just a bit of disappointment. I wasn't aware you love loved Link.


We are the LolLoveLinkClub. stick out tongue

No, but pushing a button and telling the mods someone broke a rule is hardly going to any great lengths.

Bad thread is bad, and it sets a bad environment for logical debate.


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My point is that Link fans think he can beat anyone, and Goku fans think the same thing and they both play mental gymnastics to make it seem that way. This about the unstoppable force meeting the immoveable object. I just want to see these two fan bases duke it out...


I'm sorry, that's just not true. If a thread is made that offers materials to display Link's best traits and pits him against a character that seems comparable, he will certainly be given his due.

If he's thrown into a thread by someone consistently shown to be above the capabilities he's demonstrated, there is no reason to debate. Goku is capable of destroying planets. Link is not (at least, no single incarnation, and even a composite Link probably doesn't. Maybe). So he loses. It's really kind of rude to make such assumptions.


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It is a spite, intentional or not. Goku is able to casually wipe out planets at his base form and is quantifiably much much faster than Link. There isn't a contest here. No one thinks Link would win.


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Nah, just a bit of disappointment. I wasn't aware you love loved Link.


He Lol Loves Link.


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He Lol Loves Link.


Get sniped by a Canadian ya wanker.


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That's the thing though, it's not spite, I just want to see these two groups argue with each other for once.
Then go find an irrational Link fan who is willing. I can't honestly think of anyone on this forum who'd argue Link against Goku. Anyway, I'm out.

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Awwwww no not again! sad


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The thing is though, the way Link is presented by fans in other threads suggest that he's "god like", which last time I checked is above planet breaking. Also, doesn't it take a lot of powering up for Goku to destroy a planet? wouldn't that give Link enough time to do something?


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Without a planet Link loses oxygen. This fight is too extreme.


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You think Goku needs the same amount of power to destroy Link as he would with a planet? He can one shot Link before the guy processes a thought.


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If Link is being presented in such a way in other threads, it's because he's been given the capability that allows such discussion, i.e. given the entire Triforce, a known divine artifact of great power.

You stipulated peak Goku. He could destroy the world with a kamehameha wave easily.


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You think Goku needs the same amount of power to destroy Link as he would with a planet? He can one shot Link before the guy processes a thought.


But posters argue that Link is incapable of being harmed. That his durability is too strong to take damage.

What exactly is his limit? How much damage is necessary to hurt Link?


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Then go find an irrational Link fan who is willing. I can't honestly think of anyone on this forum who'd argue Link against Goku. Anyway, I'm out.

Have fun.
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Link is capable of being harmed, but he does have a significant level of durability.

The limits aren't something I'm familiar with. The Scenario might have a better sense of what it would take.

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LLLLLink.


That guy is the closest thing the LLLC has to BT or Quan.


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I know that there is vs rule against character induced stupidity, but would Goku even resort to blowing up the planet? Lets say he starts off in normal mode, doesn't he usually try normal fighting before going all energy blast? Don't get me wrong, I don't think Link could win, but I think he could last long enough to make things interesting...

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You stipulated peak Goku. He could destroy the world with a kamehameha wave easily.


Actually, I downgraded him to SS1 and stated that Link has a non-wishing triforce, so I figured it was reasonably fair.


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But posters argue that Link is incapable of being harmed. That his durability is too strong to take damage.

What exactly is his limit? How much damage is necessary to hurt Link?


From a punch? Sure, maybe he might tank a punch from Goku and not die. Doesn't matter since Ki is the strongest thing about DBZ anyway. Besides, in one finger, Goku blocked slashes from a guy who cut Freeza in half(who tanked a planet explosion). Link has no chance.


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Link is capable of being harmed, but he does have a significant level of durability.

The limits aren't something I'm familiar with. The Scenario might have a better sense of what it would take.



That guy is the closest thing the LLLC has to BT or Quan.


This is what makes me angry. Link can be hurt. But no limit can be factored in due to contradictions.-

-Link taking cannon drop damage without harm.
-Taking damage from common thugs.

It's contradictory. On the highest level.


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What about magic though, there isn't much of it in DBZ, but it seems like magic is usually a defense breaker.


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This is what makes me angry. Link can be hurt. But no limit can be factored in due to contradictions.-

-Link taking cannon drop damage without harm.
-Taking damage from common thugs.

It's contradictory. On the highest level.
Well, no. Because you cannot beat the game without Link being fired out of a cannon down to earth or high into the sky without harm. There are cutscenes, it's canon.

The gameplay is just that, gameplay, you can beat the game without ever taking damage, it's not mandatory. It's not part of the story, you don't need to do it, there's no reason to include it.

I mean it IS a game, what fun would it be if you couldn't be hurt? Even Kratos gets hurt by mooks in gameplay, and his durability is apparently city-scale.

Link's durability tends to be disagreed on from form to form but most would argue large-building level for most incarnations.


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This is what makes me angry. Link can be hurt. But no limit can be factored in due to contradictions.-

-Link taking cannon drop damage without harm.
-Taking damage from common thugs.

It's contradictory. On the highest level.
It's an issue I've been having as well. Link can't put down a chicken and succingtly can be destroyed by one, but an orc bashing him does no damage. There has to be a happy medium, which is why the Preconceived notions exist in the first place, and are probably more on par with what he's actually capable of.


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