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Gregor Clegane vs John McClane
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Lestov16
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Pure speculation. I love how none of your argument is based on McClane's sreenfeats.


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Pure speculation. I love how none of your argument is based on McClane's sreenfeats.


I love how you desperately try to downplay McClane out of butthurt at ever opportunity.

-Using sand to blind is little more than using his environment to his benefit, which he's done in all four DH films.

-Kicking someone in the balls and knee isn't beyond his shown fighting capabilities. Neither is choking.

Try again?


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As soon as any part of McClane's body touches Clegane, it's over. McClane does not have the strength or fighting skill to land an effective strike on Clegane before Clegane tears him apart.


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As soon as any part of McClane's body touches Clegane, it's over. McClane does not have the strength or fighting skill to land an effective strike on Clegane before Clegane tears him apart.


You might want to read the Wiki on Clegane at least before you decide that.

MClane's shown super-human strength in times of great duress.

Nothing suggest that Clegane's testicles or knees are somehow made of something like granite, as you seem to imply. He also needs to breath. He's extremely large and strong, but he's still human, guy. Let's not get crazy.


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LoL, what? He was able to cave in a man's face because he was wearing a heavy steel gauntlet in said bashing fist. He's extremely strong, but lets got get crazy here.


It's more likely than you may think.

How much strength do you believe it takes to bisect a man wielding a greatsword with but one hand?

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Oberyn Martell the bisexual was casually dancing around him while taking easy shots and talking the whole time. He's slow and thickheaded.


Yet he was able to parry Oberyn's blows and even disarmed him at one point.

McClane isn't as fast as Oberyn, and unlike Oberyn, he doesn't have a weapon that has two more feet in terms of reach over Clegane.

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I did? I explicitly said "strong as 7 men", which is likely an overstatement, by no means am I underrating him here.


Oh my boy it's an understatement.

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LoL, just stop. McClane is about 6 feet tall, throwing sand several feet isn't hard. Little kids do it at the playground all around the world.


He'd have to stop down, grab the fist full of sand, bring himself to his full height, and then throw it in the Mountain's face, all while the Mountain... What? Watches?

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If he could catch him, yes. That's not happening though. Stupid brute goes down to quick thinking super cop.


Afraid not.

McClane by feats isn't particularly fast or impressive a fighter, and Gregor has far greater reach, and the strength to make that first hit down him.


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It's more likely than you may think.

How much strength do you believe it takes to bisect a man wielding a greatsword with but one hand?



Yet he was able to parry Oberyn's blows and even disarmed him at one point.

McClane isn't as fast as Oberyn, and unlike Oberyn, he doesn't have a weapon that has two more feet in terms of reach over Clegane.



Oh my boy it's an understatement.



He'd have to stop down, grab the fist full of sand, bring himself to his full height, and then throw it in the Mountain's face, all while the Mountain... What? Watches?



Afraid not.

McClane by feats isn't particularly fast or impressive a fighter, and Gregor has far greater reach, and the strength to make that first hit down him.


Probably not.

Probably less than the combined strength of seven men with a greatsword.

Because he's a knight who grew up being trained to fight with shield, sword, axe, mace and lance and has extensive fighting experience with said weapons.

Pure speculation. It was more so Clegane being a hulking brute than Oberyn being some ninja.

I doubt it. But if it makes you feel better, lets just say he has the strength of 14 men, as it's irrelevant, as McClane isn't going to win here by wrestling him.

Do you know how large the Roman Coliseum is? I do, as I've been around and inside it, it's pretty damn large. It takes a matter of 2 seconds to grab some sand.

Afraid so.

Faster than an eight foot tall brute. Reach McClane does have; it matters not, as McClane isn't boxing him, he's not an idiot.


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Nope, you're wrong, and here is why:

To the tune of “Gaston” from “Beauty and the Beast”

(The scene is the aftermath of GREGOR CLEGANE’s jousting match with the Knight of Flowers. He is in his cups, and his gang is trying to cheer him up.)

GREGOR CLEGANE (spoken)

Who does he think he is? That rose has tangled with the wrong dog. No one unhorses Gregor!

POLLIVER (spoken)

Darn right!

GREGOR

Defeated. Bruised. Publicly humiliated. It’s more than I can bear.

POLLIVER

Tickle someone?

GREGOR

What for? Nothing helps. I’m disgraced.

POLLIVER

Who, you? Never! Gregor, you’ve got to pull yourself together.

(sung)

Everyone’s scared who has met you, Gregor

You think this is a disgrace?

Nobody here would upset you, Gregor

You might just burn off their face

There’s no one alive as reviled as you

You scare Qyburn and Vargo Hoat

Elia would have a child by you

If you hadn’t cut open her throat

No one kills like Gregor

Has real skill like Gregor

Can enforce Tywin Lannister’s will

Like Gregor

‘Cause there’s no Westerosi so beastly

Raped the Princess like a whore

You can take all these knights who’re so measly

And then tickle them til they can’t take any more

GREGOR’S GANG

No one rapes like Gregor

Makes cruel japes like Gregor

No one hurts those who try to escape

Like Gregor

GREGOR

Rape beats all that consensual copulating

GREGOR’S GANG

God, what a dog, that Gregor

With Aegon’s blood upon your hands

GREGOR

He died as he nursed

GANG

You’re the worst in this land!

None can chase like Gregor

Swing a mace like Gregor

Or set fire to a sibling’s face like Gregor

For you’re great at abuses of power

GREGOR

Though I serve evil aristocrats

GANG

Your interrogate worse than Jack Bauer

GREGOR

Damn straight!

That pansy can’t do the shit I do with rats!

GANG

No one’s sick like Gregor

Gets his kicks like Gregor

And makes boys piss their pants while he picks

Like Gregor

GREGOR

I’m especially good at decapitating

SWORD!

(Chops off his horse’s head)

GANG

Ten points for Gregor!

GREGOR

When I was a lad I would torture my bro

Every evening to help me get tough

And now that I’m grown I just kill peoples’ bros

‘Cause the torture is never enough!

VICTIMS

NOOOO, PLEASE, NOOOOO

GANG

God, what a dog, that Gregor

There’s no Lord like Gregor

None use swords like Gregor

No one breaks the Geneva Accords like Gregor

GREGOR

And to peasants I’m totally captivating!

ALL

God what a dog, Gregor!


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