Really? Like most series' Action had it's weak points, but I thought it was still pretty good as a whole, post-'08. I also thought the post-'08 issues of Superman(v3) were well done... And Superman/Batman was one of my favorite series' in the pre-Flashpoint era, from start to finish. I also quite enjoyed the team-books Supes was in (JLA, for instance.) /shrug
Superman may not have been *as* good the last few years(though it's arguable, imo), but I definitely wouldn't say he was shit.
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But I actually thought McDuffie's stint on JLA was pretty well done, tbh. Every character (including Firestorm, which was rare) got their just desserts while he was writing the series... And he also reintroduced Milestone Comics back into the mainstream DCU, which was awesome.
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^ Yeah, I will say that McDuffie seemed to enjoy using Supes as the initial 'villain-benchmark'. Many times he'd have a baddie show up and own Superman, which swiftly solidified said baddie's uberness. But usually Supes would get back in the game and either own the baddie solo, or assist in owning him/it, swiftly thereafter.
Lot of good stories in his run, though, so it's hard for me to hate on it.
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After briefly skimming through McDuffie's run again, you're right, most of Superman's victories were shared with the rest of the JLA-- but it's a team-book, so that's to be expected... The moon thing happened in Superman/Batman, iirc.
But on that note, who beat Superman in McDuffie's run that shouldn't have been able to?
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McDuffie was an open Wonder Woman fan, and the "Usain Bolt vs Bruce Lee" thing was purely done to piss off some people on the forum and show them he was right.
You're right. JLA #30, to be exact. Regardless, I never thought of it as a poor showing for Supes, tbh.
The Dark Moon had 81 billion tons worth of mass. It was traveling 7,614,000km/hr. Supes flew into it moving just short of light speed, and was only momentarily KO'd, but otherwise none the worse for wear (he wasn't even scratched, and John's scans confirmed he was a-okay immediately afterward.) Had the Moon not have been moving at incredible speeds when Supes flew into it, I would have agreed that it was a poor showing-- but all things considered, it wasn't that bad, imo.
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I just checked out all of the instances where Supes was 'owned' during McDuffie's stint on JLA, and I honestly can't find anything illogical/stupid about any of them... Amazo, Starbreaker, Lex /w/ Kryptonite, etc.-- these are all characters who, given the chance, should be able to get the better of Supes. Don't really see the problem with it, tbh, but like I said: to each his own. If you think it was "bad", then that is your opinion and you are welcome to it.
I'm not a McDuffie fan by any means, but I thought his JLA issues were pretty good as a whole. It's a team book, and if take all of the issues into account, I wouldn't say that Superman was treated any worse than the rest of the Leaguers on average. What I will say is that Superman didn't attain too many high-end feats during McDuffie's run-- while some Leaguers did ('Duff did great things for Firestorm, for instance.).
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Nobody ever said it was going to go back, but I think they put that option there for when they do it. More than likely it won't be for a long time. Seeing as they have more plans for the DCnU.
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