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Nephthys
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Even more so than Jane? Her only crime was being a biotch to Walt and being a junkie. Jesse tends to be a biotch himself sometimes, he is a junkie and killed before.


He only let her die, which was terrible but hardly comparable. Besides which is that he obviously did that FOR Jesse, to keep him close and also so he wouldn't throw his life away with her. As Jesse later admitted, they probably would have OD'ed in a week with all that cash anyway. Jesse has always been the one aspect of his life where Walt will do the right thing in the end. Yes he's abusive to him, but he's also risked his life for Jesse and done loads to protect him and keep him close.

Walt killing him would signal Walt truly becoming irredeemable.


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Which is what makes it seem a logical progression.


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Mindset
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Jesse can't die.

He's immortal.


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Omega Vision
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I was surprised about Walt telling Saul that Hank was "off limits"

I mean, I expected him to not relish the idea of killing a family member, but I'd at least expect him to consider it at this point, after all he's done. Seems like an arbitrary moral line in the sand to me.


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I was surprised about Walt telling Saul that Hank was "off limits"

I mean, I expected him to not relish the idea of killing a family member, but I'd at least expect him to consider it at this point, after all he's done. Seems like an arbitrary moral line in the sand to me.
You think killing a family member is an arbitrary line?

OV confirmed for sociopath.


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You think killing a family member is an arbitrary line?

OV confirmed for sociopath.

After all that Walt has done, it seems somewhat arbitrary that that's a "step too far."

Between poisoning a kid and murdering a partner, Walt is pretty close to absolute monster status.

The one explanation I can see is that family is the last sacred thing to Walt.


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Nephthys
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Walt didn't know that kid and actively disliked Mike, but Hank is his family. He doesn't give a shit about those two, but he does about Hank. Like all deeply selfish people, Walt doesn't seem to care about anyone not emotionally attached to himself. But as shown, when Walt does care about someone he is protective and seriously emotionally-tied to them. The entire series has been founded on how important family is to him, after all.

At least, thats how I see it.


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After all that Walt has done, it seems somewhat arbitrary that that's a "step too far."

Between poisoning a kid and murdering a partner, Walt is pretty close to absolute monster status.

The one explanation I can see is that family is the last sacred thing to Walt.
There's a big difference between how most normal people view family and how they view everyone else. Even when discussing "normal" as it pertains to murderers.


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Jesse can't die.

He's immortal.

Jesse should be the one to kill Walt.

Not that vial of ricin that Walt took from his house-in-ruins.


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After all that Walt has done, it seems somewhat arbitrary that that's a "step too far."

Between poisoning a kid and murdering a partner, Walt is pretty close to absolute monster status.

The one explanation I can see is that family is the last sacred thing to Walt.
That has to be something built up to. Deciding to kill Hank immediately after his secret's out is too villainous and unbelievable. If that happens, it has to happen after a good few episodes of consideration and pushing. Can't be something the show just jumps in to right away.


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I'm still convinced that Walt will go to prison then escape and go on the hunt for Hank, possibly because Hank killed Jesse. It would explain the whole 51st/52nd birthday thing. Plus, it's the kind of thing Walt would do, escape from prison using his scientific knowledge in some way.


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I'm sorry Jesse, but I'm rooting for Walt to put a bullet in your head. No way can I not root for a guy who is able to pwn people like Walt did to Hank in this episode. Hank got owned!


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Now I'm picturing Jesse burning down the house while Junior and Molly are in it and he starts to loathe himself even more.


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He'll probably stop short when he sees Walt Jr. Jesse needs to take a trip to Belize though....


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The "confession" was phenomenal.


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Now I'm picturing Jesse burning down the house while Junior and Molly are in it and he starts to loathe himself even more.
Picture me hooking you in the gabber m8.


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thumb up Some of the best pwnage ever captured on film. Hank realizing that some of that drug money paid for his own surgery made it all the better smile


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I kept thinking Jesse was gonna die this ep.

I can't handle this stress!


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thumb up Some of the best pwnage ever captured on film. Hank realizing that some of that drug money paid for his own surgery made it all the better smile
I hate Hank. Everyone who opposed Walt needs to perish.


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Quan!!!


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