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Post #1 for the contest between my Thor and Digi's Thor (who I will be calling the usurper for the purposes of the BZ )

THE STORM COMES FOR THEE

10 seconds of prep doesn't sound really like it'd be much to work with, and Thor isn't typically known for his prep tactics, but the prep will play an important role in this battle. 10 seconds of prep will be more than enough to call the storm to his command against the usurper.

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/...178stormv21.jpg

"In a matter of seconds it begins. The atmosphere seems to come alive as the air becomes thick with electrical energy."

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/41...90stormsann.jpg

"Let the heavens grow dark! Let the storm clouds gather!"

From that point, Thor can call real power to the playing field the moment the battle commences with but a spin of Mjolnir.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/...r69storm188.jpg

The power that Thor can place behind his storms is ridiculous. With but a few spins of Mjolnir, he conjured enough force to devastate the attacking army on Asgard, and more impressively, damage the Earth while having summoned the storm all the way in Asgard.

Possibly even going up a notch from that is the ease in which Thor summons the winds of a 1,000 worlds against the entirety of a pantheon of gods know as Glory. Compared to Zeus with all the other Olympians fused with him.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/...934thorvsgl.jpg

"the decimation of the inner landscape"

Thor proceeds to fly out of Glory with the storm raging inside. Causing it pain. It'd be a simple task for Thor to catch the Usurper with the the prepped raging storm then blitz him with the power to harm a high skyfather before any real defense can be put up. To give more of an idea of Glory's power :

"The thing that makes Glory so interesting (to me, at least) is the fact that he's not one single god: he's the embodiment of an entire pantheon. Imagine if all the gods of Olympus were one being, contained within the body of Zeus, and you'll get some sense of just how formidable Glory is. Add to that the fact that he's the god of a race that lives a brutal existence of unending war and suffering. Glory is a reflection of the violence and struggle and lunacy of the people that worship him (and you could just as easily call Glory "her" or "it"). In other words, he's not just powerful: he's savage, depraved. Cosmically savage and depraved. His view of life, the universe and everything is incredibly dark and brutal. Tearing down the universes at Chaos's side is a no-brainer for Glory." as explained by the writer.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?...le&id=27876

FROM STORM....TO BLITZ
In the confusion of the storm, Thor will have the perfect chance to use the frankly staggering power that his blitzing can carry.

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2893/tstrike0509.jpg
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/...tstrike0510.jpg

^folds Mangog like a lawn chair

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/...warthor2019.jpg

^ The blitz against Chaos King ressurcted Glory

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/...94themighty.jpg

^ Blitzes Galactus with enough power to go in one side of his head and out the other.

The usurper would be down for the count.

RESTRAINT NO LONGER APPLIES

Something that tends to handicap Thor in his battles is that Thor holds back massively when on Earth or against mortals typically.With the raw power at his disposal he really has to, to avoid breaking things or breaking people.

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/...raint01a149.jpg

But one thing is for sure, Thor hates people who wear his image without his permission.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/36...vsironman06.jpg

"You defiled my body, desecrated my trust. Violated everything that I am."

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7545/thor61004.jpg

"The time for things like you is done!"


With he location and time of this battle, he wouldn't hesitate to let loose his full power against this Usurper.

THE HAMMER TOSS

The savage storm Thor will unleash from the get go will play a very large part in insuring the win for Thor. He's got more than one way to take advantage of it of course. Forget that the storm itself is something an immediate defense will be needed for, a hammer toss in the confusion is a very real threat.
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/...1351p20crop.jpg

^ though I think it'd be fair to assume some of the description of that throw is hyperbole, it carried enough power to force twilight sword Surtur to block it. And I don't blame him.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/24...58strikingp.jpg

^ a standard toss afterall carried enough power to throw him off his feet. Surtur being another skyfather level being who cost the all father Odin his life to put him down and needed the help of Thor and Loki once. http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/...985353244bz.jpg

Even with the massive recent disprespect Thor has been getting recently, his power against those who outrank him in power isn't forgotten, as he demonstrates here against the Phoenix Force.

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Thor scores a flash KO against the Phoenix Force as confirmed by the writer.

"Here we've got a pretty epic confrontation between Thor and the Phoenix. What exactly happens in this scene. Does Thor hit the Phoenix so hard that it needs to stop and refuel?"

"Yeah, the idea was here's was basically Phoenix versus a god, which, you know, seems like a fair fight. So Thor went and smacked the Phoenix so hard that he knocked the bird out. [Laughs]"
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?...le&id=39002

While the Usurper struggles to deal with the storm felt across worlds, Thor will land a hammer throw with the power to damage abstracts.

and if there is any doubt that a defense could be put up against this or possibly the attack could be avoided due to the time it takes to charge....

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2830/hammerspped.jpg

Thor throws Mjolnir to the end of the galaxy and it returns in less than 60 seconds. Speed that makes light look like molasses. There is no avoiding it.

And by no avoiding it, i mean no defense for it either: http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/...67strikingp.jpg

Mjolnir while travling can warp the space around it. Resulting in it going through forcefields. Thor typically chooses not to use this, but in a contest against this Usurper he very much would.

With the power to harm abstracts, Thor ends the usurper.

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BRING THE LIGHTNING!

Of course Thor has more to his offensive power than hammer throws, storms, and bull rushing. Thor is the Lord of Lighting after all.

Anyone would be hard pressed to find herald level attacks with he depth and magnitude of power and versatility that Thor's lighting has.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/...warthor2020.jpg

^full circle lightning used to blow back resurrected Glory's attacks.

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/...hor166super.jpg

^sweeping lighting to take out the horseman of alt reality apocalypse.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1176/bendisthor.jpg

^ a charged direct beam of lighting to take out time displaced earth conquering machines.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/56...87lightning.jpg

^ Multiple bolts fired at once

Now lets move on to the more fun stuff.

RAW POWER!

Those top scans were kiddie showings, meant to show the versatility in Thor's lightning. Lets move on to why Thor is called "Mighty".

Thor's lightning blows open the Sentry

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/30...ipelsiege04.jpg

First off, that was void possessed sentry who is in another level to regular sentry.

Just compare how Standard Sentry and "Voidtry" respectively deal with hammer shots:

Standard Sentry:http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5035/2150800siege1.jpg

Voidtry: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/64...egioncps011.jpg

Thor had to put a lot of power in that lightning to harm voidtry the way he did. And he did harm him.

Sentry during this time was giving over the void. As the Sentry's body was damaged, the void would come out of the wound. Ares managed to get a stab on Sentry before being killed, out of which came a void tendril. The more Sentry's body was hurt, the more of the void that came out. Thor blew the Sentry back open, resulting in the tendrils crawling out of the sentry's back. Now if you read what Thor says "I must smite you down with all the power at my command!" Heh funny Joke. Truth is it wasn't even close to being "all the power at this command". As we see here:

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/96...vsvoidsuper.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5052/siege01023024.jpg

^ Despite having been a lighting/hammer combo, the power that it generated was amazing. Considering that the void withstood this without much trouble at all:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3734/thorstrikes.jpg
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8544/siege01010.jpg

^ Norn stone amped and all, the void resisted that power. This begins to show the depth and magnitude of power that Thor holds back. He basically can call on as much as he wants to fit the situation. It can range anywhere from a Hulk dropper:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/...horvshulk47.jpg

to a Galactus dropper:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9701/ff24321.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2177/ff24324.jpg

Even chaos king itself pauses before Thor summoning multiversal lighting to harm him.

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Yes the same Chaos King who was absorbing the multiverse and was currently beating the Sh*t out of Chaos War Herc who was given an opening precisely by Thor's lightning.

There have been plenty "full power lighting strikes" by Thor but fact is Thor just keeps topping them. There really has been no "limit" to what he has accomplished with them. What does this mean?

There really is only one outcome left of the Usurper:



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Lying dead at Thor's feet.

DOUBTS?!?!?!?!

There was a time, where Thor was actually fueled by lightning instead of harmed by it. That would indeed change the nature of this debate. Sadly, time has passed and that part of his powerset has been all but forgotten:

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/...21lightning.jpg

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/...horvsulik24.jpg

I didn't really delve into any sort of defense for Thor in either post, so much as brutal overwhelming offense. In the case where our two champions have identical power sets, this battle will be determined by who uses his power the best. I've explained why my Thor (the true Thor) will suceed. There is no defense for a Thor who wants to get you except to fly like hell. And seeing as how Thor can teleport anywhere in the universe he chooses even that will be a temporary solution at best. The best defense is a good offense, and that's why Thor will emerge victorious


That's all I've got to say. Thanks Digi for being cool doing a Thor vs Thor match lol. You're a really cool guy and mod, and I hope to do something similar like this again sometime since well...Thor's basically the only character I can really feel at home debating with. (please log in to view the image)

Thanks to the judges for taking the time to read through our posts and win or lose, I enjoyed this

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Digi Post #1

So ok, weird battle. We’re both using Thor, and neither of us gets rebuttal posts. How to approach this?

Two ways. One will be with trickery, in an attempt to outsmart the other Thor using his various powers. The second will be to show how my Thor will fight harder and remember the best of himself if the trickery fails (I have no idea if it will or not, since I don’t know Damborgson’s plans).

A quick note: we’re using the same Thor. Same physical attributes and capabilities. But HOW our Thor approaches the fight is up to us. That will determine the entire battle.

So ok, the battle starts, and I immediately…summon HIS Mjolnir to me:
http://imageshack.us/a/img213/8734/hammerreturn.jpg
Same hammer, same character, same rules. Cheap? Sure. But there’s no reason he can’t do this.

Simultaneously, I throw my Mjolnir in a faster than lightspeed hurl, and create a bubble around his Thor that blocks magical input. Here’s the famous scene against Juggernaut that I’m referencing:
http://imageshack.us/a/img213/1949/magicblock1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/7488/magicblock2.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/6956/magicblock3.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img14/7020/magicblock4.jpg

So as fast as Thor is able to react, I have my opponent’s hammer and have created a bubble around him that blocks magical energies. This will prevent him from summoning back Mjolnir.

Then, blast him with lightning to weaken the hell out of him and/or kill him. Without Mjolnir, he cannot absorb it. I am simultaneously casting lightning on myself to absorb into the Mjolnir that my Thor is holding. This will charge the **** out of it.

Once weakened (if he isn’t dead already), or if he figures a way to elude my trap, I’ll send the magic-bubble Mjolnir hurtling toward him in a feint, while I fly into melee range. Once there, I give him one of these numbers with all the stored lightning:
http://imageshack.us/a/img208/3411/mangog1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img255/5750/mangog2.jpg
…making sure I’m close enough that he can’t absorb the blast, but takes the full force of the stored energy in Mjolnir.

And to clarify, Thor’s been hurt by his own lightning, stupidly enough. Minus Mjolnir, or at point-blank range, it’s a viable tactic.

So, if Damborgson does something freaky to negate a lot of this, and we’re in a brawl, flip a coin and pick one of us to win. But if he tries to invoke weather powers, I’m going to negate them. And if he does pretty much anything else, I think my opening tactics do a lot to beat him.

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Digi Post #2

Here’s where I’m going to dip into the scans well a little bit. I doubt I have any scans that Damborgson doesn’t have (though maybe one or two), but I’d like to show you that my Thor is fighting just a little bit smarter or better.

I’m not going to unload my entire collection on you. That’s what respect threads are for. I don’t think it’s relevant to show every last bit of strength or skill. Both Thors are fighting hard and well – it’s the nuanced stuff that will determine the fight, not the broad, general powers.

Anyway…

If his Thor does any absorbing and redirecting of energy, I’ll be doing the same. But my Thor will be returning the energy x100:
http://imageshack.us/a/img706/2453/energyabsorb1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/1045/energyabsorb2.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img600/5162/energyabsorb3.png
…which is not often cited or used by Thor. And I am smart enough to wait to release it until he will not have a chance to absorb it.

I can also straight-up absorb the **** out of stuff:
http://imageshack.us/a/img855/4769/absorb1.jpg
…really, I just love that scan. Can’t even remember what it’s from, but it’s entirely badass.

Also, if he’s dumb enough to shoot energy at me while I’m holding Mjolnir, my Thor will remember that he doesn’t have to directly block it with Mjolnir in order to absorb it (an ability he often forgets):
http://imageshack.us/a/img4/6069/electricabsorb.jpg
Thor has often – very often – forgotten this or failed to invoke that power, so if Damborgson is not doing the same, most energy attacks will sneak through and hurt him, Mjolnir or not.

When I use lightning, it is Ego-busting lightning:
http://imageshack.us/a/img84/3572/egoo.jpg

And if you really think we end up duking it out, well, my Thor just wants it more:
http://imageshack.us/a/img405/5648/thanos5.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img341/1615/thanos6.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img688/1132/thanos7.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/322/thanos8.jpg

So to recap, I’m harassing him by taking his Mjolnir, blocking him from his own hammer, making sure my attacks are as good or better than his could possibly be, and utilizing weaknesses to make sure he isn’t absorbing my attacks. Simple plan, nowhere near my limit for scans or words in my posts. But again, the weather powers, brawling, speed, etc. are a complete draw. I’ve highlighted only what I think will help me edge out Damborgson’s Thor.

And if, after everything, all this still fails, I…put him in a Universal Infinity Vortex? Yeah, that.
http://imageshack.us/a/img72/9199/hammerspin.jpg
Seriously. Might be a OHK that we've ignored on the forums for years. Write it down.

FOR ASGARD!

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Jake, would you be interested in doing a Thor one with me sometime?

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Originally posted by Horrificus
Hello, my name is Horrificus.

"Hello Horrificus!", You all say.

Tonight is my first time in the BZ.

Just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this battle.
Good Job All!

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
double entendrè