Anakin schooled Dooku who owned Obi. Obi iirc admitted Anakin was better. Anakin was still quite formidable. He couldn't beat Obi and then made a critical mistake due to his arrogance.
Dumbledore took the precautions necessary to combat Voldemort. Dumbledore was wise as to what to do he just knew he couldn't live to see it due to him dying in a year. He chose to use his own death as an advantage to gain Voldemort's trust through Snape.
Dumbledore wanted to die. He instructed Snape to kill him. That entire scene was him allowing it to happen. They weren't outnumbered 1 million to one when they showed what killed them. They were taken off guard and those who survived the initial assault quickly went down save Yoda who was with the Wookies.
I disagree. I also don't debate citing pis or cis. To me it gives the fan an excuse to discount certain things they don't like. Palpatine announced his intentions and the attack wasn't that fast so we factor this showing in.
I disagree. Yoda catches Dooku's lightning sa less powerful attack when focused, sure. What other things ? Slow moving objects ?
Yes, barely. Yoda also has precog and is quite a distance away and quite nimble. That doesn't prove anything since we have seen far slower attacks beat him and keep him busy. Yes, but struggles against opponents with continuous energy beam projectile attacks.
Just because he is good at stopping laser blasts doesn't mean he can stop anything thrown his way with the same relative ease.
I don't agree with cis as I previously said.
It goes into water and clouds the entire room. Do you think the actual display of power is weaker than Palpatine's force lightning dis plays of power ? Could Yoda redirect the fire balls with ease in your opinion ? We see how powerful it is with our own two eyes. Could LUke Skywalker survive the fireballs from this spell thrown at him for a longer time than he survived against set to kill force lightning iyo ?
It disintegrates the entire body which shows how powerful and force lightning is a bunch of attacks so why can't I use two spell blasts ? We also know Dumbledore is far more powerful than she is.
He says now you will die. He wasn't torturing him anymore.
Dooku defeated a completely vulnerable Anakin in one hit. He later shows he recovered from it. It ko'd him and didn't seriously harm him either.
Yoda also can be ko'd with a force lightning blast and we have never seen it directly kill anyone on it's own. The force lightning can ko those who aren't ready for it. It happened to Yoda as well.
A>B>C is irrelevant, Anakin tapped into a state that he normally can not access to beat Dooku.
He said, "Better Jedi than I", not, "You could totally own me" because the Jedi are not warriors.
So he was gonna die whether he liked it or not? Good to know. He isn't as powerful as you want him to be.
So the Jedi, leading armies are not outnumbered a million to one just because they don't show the millions on screen? The fact they were leading armies, and stated to do so, doesn't clue you in? You're hopeless.
If not CIS than what? Yoda is suddenly unable to do a feat we know he's capable of, and reacting slower than we know he and slower characters can act at?
And if you don't accept CIS its still one a single instance that is countered (catching Palpy's, and even Dooku's as power=/=speed), while so many other things say he is much faster then human limits.
What other things stack up to all of those moments?
Yeah but that would be like saying a house fire a more powerful than Dumbledore because its larger. As Nate said, Anakin dying from being consumed by lava flames can take it far better than a human takes normal flames. If the flames hit him he would still be in fighting condition.
The pain Anakin was in after both of his legs were cut of and being engulfed in lava flames, lasted 30+ seconds << The pain Luke was in from Force Lightning, lasted 20 seconds.
Because the only spells shown to kill a human is the AK and this spell after set-up. And Albus isn't attacking someone with human durability, like the wizards.
He also says Luke will be destroyed the first time he tortured him, not much different from the second time.
Exactly. Anakin gets hit and is out for a few minutes from Dooku's lightning, Yoda by Palpy's lightning is out for a few seconds. Luke can walk away from Palpy's lightning being used continuously. Luke does not have some massive durability over Anakin and Yoda, so there had to be something up with the one used on Luke. Torture.
Jedi's are more durable than wizards, taking attacks that are fatal to humans. The power that brings them to their knees is going to be impressive.
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It's covered in the novel and other EU sources. Which /are/ canon. Banning feats from outside the movies does not change events from outside the movies.
No one else has ever been disfigured by force lightning, have they? This case is clearly different in some way, even just within the movies. The difference is that the face of Palpatine was not Sidious' true face.
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