I do dislike quotes like that. Primarily because it leads to people just posting those quotes in every Yoda/Sidious thread regardless of who they're fighting, and only posting that. As if being the most powerful automatically makes them win.
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Last edited by Nephthys on Jul 26th, 2013 at 03:12 PM
You can't say that when you're simultaneously hyping up the Barsen'thor and the HoT. Her force feats rival that of the Barsen'thor with Shatterpoint, battle meditation and the ability to block lightsabers. It was just hyped that the Barsen'thor was able to break through a blast door while Satele did the very same feat. Not to mention Satele has foresight to the future that easily rivals Yodas.
Also she is much, much, much more adept with fighting styles opposite of the HoT and the Consular. The HoT has no force feats and the Consular has no lightsaber feats. Satele's elite at both.
The only two things going for Nomi is battle meditation and cutting someone off from the force. Impressive yes but Satele is definitely in her category.
She's basically Revan with a double balded lightsaber and better force powers.
Last edited by Based on Jul 26th, 2013 at 11:46 PM
I'm not going to waste time looking for vids but before I even left Tython my HoT sent a guy flying hundreds of feet with a simple force push. Neph, meanwhile, has shown shit where he has mind raped Sith Lords. Not to mention he resisted Vitate's own telepathic assault.
Because the Barsen'thor and the HoT are more powerful than her?
This is Satele smashing through a blast door:
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The door doesn't look that large and looks to be about half a foot thick. If she has Shatterpoint as you say that could make it less impressive in terms of power imo. Now this is the Barsen'thor smashing through a blast door:
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Its about as tall as a two story house and half a meter thick. Not really a comparison. Bare in mind that the Barsen'thor had already weakened herself with the shielding technique once at this point and this is right at the start of the game.
Also Yoda's crappy for foreseeing the future due to Sidious dampening his ability so whatevs.
How does Satele rival Yoda? That what I'm talking about here. The Barsen'thor beating Vivicar is one of the best feats any Jedi has ever had as is the Hero whooping Vitiate on a Darkside nexus. These two imo have the chops to rival Yoda. Satele is extremely powerful, top 10 imo, but she ain't rivaling Yoda.
I mentioned Nomi as a maybe because she does have some incredible feats and abilities and has been directly compared to Yoda.
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I was actually thinking about the most powerful Jedi ever and in no order my top 10 would be:
Honorable Mentions are: The Exile, Obi-Wan, Jaden Korr, Kyle Katarn, Mara Jade, Saba Sebatyne, Tol Braga.
Theres probably a few I'm missing and I'm purposefully leaving out those who fall to the Dark Side like Anakin and Jacen. Also Galen Marek because he was never a Jedi. The only one I'm iffy on is Kyp because although he did a lot of swanky shit and got hyped as Luke's equal back in the day, man has he done ****all since then.
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Last edited by Nephthys on Jul 27th, 2013 at 02:22 AM
Nobody is "unstoppable". Is this another one of your useless tautologies?
Yeah, because you implied that Palpatine's Force feats are inferior to Vitiate's own.
No, it isn't. He demonstrates horrible tactical competence in the Revan novel. Notice that, despite being amped by one of the most powerful dark side nexuses to ever exist, he's seriously threatened by a union of Revan, Meetra Surik and Scourge.
Now, compare this to how Sidious deals with the "B team". Aside from Mace Windu, he casually kills everyone in a matter of seconds, yet it never appears as though the Emperor could have done the same...indeed, Meetra comes within a tactical error of killing him with a saber throw.
Except that Palpatine's are:
1. Far more destructive.
2. Performed without rituals or external energy sources.
Not to mention Sidious has something called a "lightsaber", and has dueled Yoda to a relative standstill.
You find it relevant that the B-Team was beaten by Sidious in seconds, yet ignore that Vitiate has toppled a similar strike team in an even shorter amount of time?
Either way, any incarnation if Sidious post-TPM can defeat Vitiate.
The only Jedi of note in that team was Tol Braga, and perhaps the HoT. The other two were plebes. And he certainly did not topple them in a shorter time. The plebes were owned as soon as Vitiate attacked but they are featless knights without the chops to compare to Agen Saesee and Kit. Tol and HoT both survived longer though.
"Palpatine faced Mace and Agen and Kit and Saesee—four of the greatest swordsmen our Order has ever produced. By himself. Even both of us together wouldn't have a chance."-Kenobi on the matter of their deaths.
Of course this was Yoda being humble and Kenobi underestimating the Grand Master. But the point still stands the ROTS B-Team are above the two no-names accompanying Tol Braga.
Even TPM Sidious could likely defeat him considering I'm pretty sure Plagueis was the most powerful Sith in history up until his demise.
Jul 26th, 2013 03:09 PM
This is comedy gold!
