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Very true. But it's ok. I'm sure your mom told you that you were huge

More truth you can't admit since it would destroy your trolling ways
No, you're fat and are embarrassed. Voldemort wins.


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If there are no horcrux shenanigans holding Dumbledore back he'd win imo.


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If there are no horcrux shenanigans holding Dumbledore back he'd win imo.
Based on what ?


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He's more skilled and he has the Elder Wand to give him hax. Plus he has the greater will. Voldemort is a coward and he has a weak mind. Even Harry beat him in Priori Incantatem, a contest of pure will. Dumbledore is mentally superior and is just in general far smarter than Tom.


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He's more skilled and he has the Elder Wand to give him hax. Plus he has the greater will. Voldemort is a coward and he has a weak mind. Even Harry beat him in Priori Incantatem, a contest of pure will. Dumbledore is mentally superior and is just in general far smarter than Tom.
Ok, wait a minute here. He isn't a coward and never shied away from Harry. If he was a coward he wouldn't have faced Albus because he wasn't there for him. Being fearful of someone also alerts your senses to better defend yourself. That's why if you're in a fight or someone is threatening to kill your senses are heightened.

Why do you think he's more skilled ? What makes you think he has a greater will ?

How much does being smarter help someone in a fight honestly. You'd have to prove Albus is even smarter tbh and he hasn't dedicated himself to the dark arts as Voldemort. We see how skilled Voldemort is in direct comparison to Albus without the most powerful wand. That's insanely important that he looked impressive against Albus who held the greatest wand in the land. That's a point Albus supporters can't escape.


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Voldemort was pathetic, as it had become clear he couldn't beat Harry legitimately because Harry would just own him in Priori Incantatem again because of his superior willpower he tried to cheat and get the wand instead of actually getting stronger himself. Dude was such a pussy he only managed to kill one person even though he had a Basilisk, on two seperate occassions. He's a quitter who didn't have what it takes to truly be Slytherins heir. He also ran from Albus and resorted to getting Draco and Snape to kill him because he knew he couldn't.

Dumbledore actually beat the Elder Wand, which Voldemort couldn't. Albus is clearly the superior wizard because of this unprecidented feat. I'm also far more impressed by what Dumbledore has done than I am Voldemort Especially considering he's fighting with a handicap of not using the OP killing curse that Tom spams so much. His understanding of magic is far greater than Voldemorts.

Even Harry has a greater will than Voldemort. He's very weak mentally and a quitter. Dumbledore beat Voldemort absolutely through his plans. He managed to 100% plan out Voldemorts defeat and pulled it off, proving that hes a strategic genius far beyond Voldemort. He was even willing to sacrifice his life to win, unlike Voldemort who is petrified of dying like a true coward.


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Apart from Harry's parents who were taken by surprise, does Voldemort actually win a single fight in the entire series?


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Voldemort was pathetic, as it had become clear he couldn't beat Harry legitimately because Harry would just own him in Priori Incantatem again because of his superior willpower he tried to cheat and get the wand instead of actually getting stronger himself. Dude was such a pussy he only managed to kill one person even though he had a Basilisk, on two seperate occassions. He's a quitter who didn't have what it takes to truly be Slytherins heir. He also ran from Albus and resorted to getting Draco and Snape to kill him because he knew he couldn't.
Voldemort defeated him in a duel in OOTP. Being disarmed is what happens when you lose a duel. I assume you're trolling here since Harry fled that initial exchange. He didn't win a duel despite your insistence that spell means he won. There was a secret horcrux in Harry unbeknownst to Voldemort. Voldemort explained the wand thing in deathly Hallows part one. Point is there was always circumstances why Voldemort didn't just annihilate him. Mothers spell, fled the cemetery, was disarmed by Voldemort in OOTP and was aided by Albus, wand disintegrated, killed his own secret unintentional horcrux, and his own wand turned on him since he wasn't the rightful ruler of the wand.

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Dumbledore actually beat the Elder Wand, which Voldemort couldn't. Albus is clearly the superior wizard because of this unprecidented feat. I'm also far more impressed by what Dumbledore has done than I am Voldemort Especially considering he's fighting with a handicap of not using the OP killing curse that Tom spams so much. His understanding of magic is far greater than Voldemorts.

Even Harry has a greater will than Voldemort. He's very weak mentally and a quitter. Dumbledore beat Voldemort absolutely through his plans. He managed to 100% plan out Voldemorts defeat and pulled it off, proving that hes a strategic genius far beyond Voldemort. He was even willing to sacrifice his life to win, unlike Voldemort who is petrified of dying like a true coward. [/B]
Grindelwald already lost in the first film pretty easily. Albus didn't beat Voldemort and he had the elder wand.

A greater understanding of love and it's magics doesn't mean you're a more effective duelist or more powerful wizard. Who cares ? Voldemort was the darkest wizard of all time.

Dumbledore said Harry was better than he was multiple times in the film. Dude, lost to Draco ffs. Nah, Albus was shitting his pants, unintentionally cursed himself with Voldemort's dark magic that would kill him a inside of a year. He then forced his friend to kill him who later cucked to Voldemort.


Voldemort was the supreme power in the wizarding world. Voldemort wins. More powerful better feats, looked better against Albus despite Albus having the greatest wand.


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Apart from Harry's parents who were taken by surprise, does Voldemort actually win a single fight in the entire series?


Everyone agrees with you.


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Voldemort defeated him in a duel in OOTP. Being disarmed is what happens when you lose a duel. I assume you're trolling here since Harry fled that initial exchange. He didn't win a duel despite your insistence that spell means he won. There was a secret horcrux in Harry unbeknownst to Voldemort. Voldemort explained the wand thing in deathly Hallows part one. Point is there was always circumstances why Voldemort didn't just annihilate him. Mothers spell, fled the cemetery, was disarmed by Voldemort in OOTP and was aided by Albus, wand disintegrated, killed his own secret unintentional horcrux, and his own wand turned on him since he wasn't the rightful ruler of the wand.


I just rewatched the movie fight and Dumbledore spent much of it protecting Harry. And Voldemort still fled like a coward. He is pathetic and has always lost to Dumbledore his whole life. Harry fled because there were 20 Death Eaters surrounding him, he still beat Voldemort in Priori Incantatum and Voldemorts whole plot in the last two movies was getting the Elder Wand because he can't beat Harry straight up. You can point to circumstances in other encounters but in that specific duel Harry legitimately overpowered Tom's willpower and fvcked his wand into uselessness. He won.

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Grindelwald already lost in the first film pretty easily. Albus didn't beat Voldemort and he had the elder wand.

A greater understanding of love and it's magics doesn't mean you're a more effective duelist or more powerful wizard. Who cares ? Voldemort was the darkest wizard of all time.

Dumbledore said Harry was better than he was multiple times in the film. Dude, lost to Draco ffs. Nah, Albus was shitting his pants, unintentionally cursed himself with Voldemort's dark magic that would kill him a inside of a year. He then forced his friend to kill him who later cucked to Voldemort.


Voldemort was the supreme power in the wizarding world. Voldemort wins. More powerful better feats, looked better against Albus despite Albus having the greatest wand.


He got taken by surprise while duelling (and winning) against 20 Aurors, a better feat than anything Tom has ever done considering he's never won a single legit fight in the movies. Albus was hampered by protecting Harry and Tom still fled.

Dumbledore understands ancient magic better than Tom in general and he also understands wand magic better. He's the better wizard and always has been.

Harry is a better person than either but Albus would still kick Voldemorts ass in willpower. Voldemort is a quitter and a coward who always runs away. Albus lost to Draco on purpose to set up his plan, which in its genius led to Voldemorts defeat. He's way smarter and hes not afraid of dying unlike loser Tom.

Voldemort has never won a fair fight and Albus is straight up better than him. Albus beat the greatest wand and a guy who was crushing 20+ Aurors at once. He takes Tom back to school.


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I just rewatched the movie fight and Dumbledore spent much of it protecting Harry. And Voldemort still fled like a coward. He is pathetic and has always lost to Dumbledore his whole life. Harry fled because there were 20 Death Eaters surrounding him, he still beat Voldemort in Priori Incantatum and Voldemorts whole plot in the last two movies was getting the Elder Wand because he can't beat Harry straight up. You can point to circumstances in other encounters but in that specific duel Harry legitimately overpowered Tom's willpower and fvcked his wand into uselessness. He won.

Albus was in a duel with Voldemort. When Voldemort possessed Harry Albus was powerless to prevent that so no that isn't accurate. He was worried about Harry but he focused on the duel with Voldemort.

Voldemort wouldn't let anyone else interfere in the cemetery. That's plain as day so you're just trolling here. Resisting that one spell isn't winning the duel so who cares ? Harry fled a one on one duel. That's an L.

Albus fought him once and didn't prevail despite having the most powerful wand. That's bad if you claim he's superior and has the best wand as well. Voldemort held his own whereas Albus was on his backside when Voldemort decided to change his tactics.

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He got taken by surprise while duelling (and winning) against 20 Aurors, a better feat than anything Tom has ever done considering he's never won a single legit fight in the movies. Albus was hampered by protecting Harry and Tom still fled.

Dumbledore understands ancient magic better than Tom in general and he also understands wand magic better. He's the better wizard and always has been.

Harry is a better person than either but Albus would still kick Voldemorts ass in willpower. Voldemort is a quitter and a coward who always runs away. Albus lost to Draco on purpose to set up his plan, which in its genius led to Voldemorts defeat. He's way smarter and hes not afraid of dying unlike loser Tom.

Voldemort has never won a fair fight and Albus is straight up better than him. Albus beat the greatest wand and a guy who was crushing 20+ Aurors at once. He takes Tom back to school. [/B]
Voldemort defeated Harry Potter multiple times. Also killed his father, Snape, etc. you are obviously just trolling to make the claim a guy who is am thusly smart enough to know when to leave while Grindelwald was to dense and naive to understand he was outmatched. Newt easily beat him and he isn't some highly skilled duelist.

Voldemort fled against many wizards plus Albus. Grindewald failed against Albus himself while he wielded the elder wand.

No, the facts don't show that. Voldemort has superior feats, looked better in direct comparison while he wielded an inferior wand to the elder wand.

Who did Albus beat in the films ?

Grindelwald lost and embarrassingly so against featless wizards. Newt held his own against him earlier in the film. He doesn't hold a candle to the true dark lord.


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Apart from Harry's parents who were taken by surprise, does Voldemort actually win a single fight in the entire series?


Lol...come to think of it, no.


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Lol...come to think of it, no.
So you haven't seen the films.

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So you haven't seen the films.

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Refresh my memory then.


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Refresh my memory then.
Defeated Harry in OOTP.

Now watch the films when you can rent them out at your library for free since you can't afford it.


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Defeated Harry in OOTP.

Now watch the films when you can rent them out at your library for free since you can't afford it.


When did he defeat Harry in OOTP?


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When did he defeat Harry in OOTP?
When he disarmed him you idiot.


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Oh, okay. Well there you go then, he disarmed a 14 yr. old.


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