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Originally posted by juggerman
Yet you have. Several times now. Your credibility is shot. I can repost your concessions if you like.

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I have plenty to back it up. You have nothing. No need to apologize, I’m well aware your troll logic is maximum.



Negative he gets defeated and comes back. But this point has been derailed enough. The original point was Link reflecting magic back at him is not Link “using” the magic himself.[/B]

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Sword swings would kill. Not all are kill attempts. That’s called you ignoring facts and tactics in battle.



Everything backs them up. You have nothing. In battle/duels many things “could kill” and yet are not intended to kill. You’ve lost.



Yet it still shits on your Quanman sense.[/B]

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Explain to me how he killed a corpse? Those bodies were basically dummies on strings. Moving due to magic doesn’t automatically give them life. You’re really trolling at this point.



Strawman. I never said he was breathing underwater.



Well everything you’ve said so far was wrong might as well keep the trend going.[/B]

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Completely different. A gunshot isn’t something that can be blocked/avoided easily by your average human. Now if say “Joe Schmo” shot a bullet at say Neo or Agent Smith it could be argued that he was just trying to get their attention/distract them. Kind of like Colossus tossing Wolverine at Magneto in X3. It legit could have killed Mags had he not stopped him. You of course would call this a “kill attempt” since it “could have killed” right? Pathetic as usual.



Negative



They all fit perfectly within the events.[/B]

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Spartacus vs. Crixus. Everything “could kill” yet nothing was “intended to kill” by Spartacus, and he was defending himself. So again your point is meaningless.[/B]

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It’s far more logical that this smart and powerful wizard would use strategy in a duel, yet that seems to be impossible according to you. And seriously your argument is now that “the duel was too fast and too scary so he had to kill”? It getting worse every time.



Of course you do. You made another claim now back it up.



Juggsatheory>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quanman sense.
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Don’t feel bad. The truth often hurts.



That isn’t proof since “can kill=/=intended to kill”. What else you got? Fire can be repelled back in a attempt to get the caster to end the spell. It can also be repelled in a attempt to distract the caster allowing you an opportunity to catch them off guard with an attack of your own. Both are not kill attempts even tho death can be a result and both ideas are not only completely backed up by Dumbledore’s personality and his past and future actions but are also supported by what happened immediately after. He sent it back and Voldemort “ended” the spell (which you have no proof Dumbledore could have done himself) and he took advantage of the opening and used a spell of his own. If that’s all you have I’m disappointed.[/B]

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But if someone holds you in a bubble and attempts to simply hold you there until back up arrives, knowing full well there is every reason to believe you wouldn’t be killed in the process (since we see underwater breathing is not rare in HP land) then it is not a kill attempt at all. [/B]

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Again the only way your stance works is if we ignore everything else we’ve seen in the films. Kids figured out water breathing. No one was surprised. Voldemort knows WAY more magic then these kids. Logic (not that I expect you to be familiar with this at all) dictates Voldemort would be able to survive underwater conditions. And, thanks for bringing this up BTW, Dumbledore is well aware of Voldemort’s power and knowledge as proven by the quote you cited earlier about him “stretching the limits of magic farther than anyone”. [/B]

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So unless you have some legitimate reason why he wouldn’t know what 4 vastly inferior wizards figured out and/or a reason why someone of Dumbledore’s intelligence and familiarity with Voldemort’s power and knowledge would assume he would drown you have nothing showing intent to kill. Again failure.



Nah son[/B]

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As much as I’d like to believe you are this stupid I just can’t. You know better. So having organs means it’s alive now? Dumbledore still had organs and “what not” when he was killed, guess that means he didn’t really die huh? Bacteria don’t have organs and “what not”, guess that means they are as void of life as brooms right? Epic Quanfail. [/B]

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If someone were invisible, went to a morgue, and started moving the body to scare the people there would you honestly claim the body came back to life? Or maybe the kids from “Chronicle” lift a body up with tk and have it “dance” around, would you also argue the body came back to life? I mean they still have “organs and what not” right? The bodies moved because they were being controlled by dark magic. It’s that simple. Prove someone went invisible in HBP. If you can't then you just brought up juggsatheory.


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I’m not trying to take a shot at all. I’m saying that it’s more than likely he can survive underwater. You seem to believe he would have died if he didn’t escape right away. Seems like I’m giving your boy more credit than you are. Also please quote me saying he would need to breathe underwater for “hours”. [/B]

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Originally posted by juggerman
So now he’s just controlling the direction? Before you claimed he controlled the fire itself. So which one is it?

If someone cuts off your air supply AND you have no way of breathing you die. Voldemort had a way of breathing unless of course you want to argue he wouldn’t know what kids figured out so easily. And you just deciding Dumbledore would have held it until Voldy died IS speculation tard.



I rebuke your god awful Quanman sense!

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So Dumbledore is incapable of attempting to defend himself and others without a mindset to kill? Again your only argument is “could kill so killing was intended” which has been destroyed over and over again.



Controlling what his magic did and controlling Voldemort’s attack are two totally different things. Nice troll tactic tho. He pushed it away like a person might push away an attacker’s knife wielding arm. Doesn’t give them control over the knife tho, just shows they controlled their own hand and arm well.[/B]

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Holding someone, whom can reasonably be expected to survive underwater, in a water bubble is not a kill attempt.



Actually I’ve destroyed your silly arguments and your Quanman sense.



And brooms don’t make you fly. They don’t use real world physics all the time in this story. Point unproven. Just like the rest of your dribble.
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You’re not even bright enough to spell “bright” LOL!!!!! And I understand your trolling just fine boy.



I’m sure you imagine plenty of thing in your sad lonely little world.



Defrauding by using the internet on my breaks? Wow you are a dumb one. I’d rather spend time with my loved ones while at home and not be draped over the computer for hours at a time like the pathetic antisocial loser you’ve proven yourself to be. [/B]

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Albus wins.

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Originally posted by Sanguinem
Dumbledore wins.
Out of the two Dumbledore has more to lose if he fails. That, and he has the elder wand.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Dumbledore he is the most powerful wizard OF ALL TIME

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Not in the films IMO. I never read the books but from what I've heard they aren't the same.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Everyone the elder wand is not a true trump card as dumbledore defeated grindlewald who was the true master. Also voldemort feared him before he knew about the elder wand.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He is in the movies. In the battle voldemort only got the upper hand when he let out a roar, and even then he couldn't take Dumbledore down

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Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Dumbledore knows his ultimate enemies' weakness before...,He wins.

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Originally posted by StealthRanger
Superman solos

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Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Dumbledore wins unless...,