Lestov has been over amping and twisting and bastardising the screenfeats only rule (which he himself breaks whenever it suits his argument), by suggesting that they only get what the few troops in the battlefield LA movie had. IE No Nukes. Pure buttrage gimpery.
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Hilarious how you think wizards are just going to charge the military, like they're in Braveheart, and not come up with any strategy whatsoever Any US ground forces get telefragged with fiendfyres. They can also fly as well, with enough speed to collapse a bridge
You act as if a slingshot could penetrate it. Also, when Vold penetrated the shield, he used so much power that it broke his wand. The shield in this thread is much more powerful, and is powered by Vold himself and a hundred others at his power level
If they destroy it, the wizards just teleport 100 miles away and erect another, since LA is 469 sq miles. All they'll need to see is the shield being destroyed to know it's time to vamanos, because the shield must be destroyed before any bomb can touch the wizards, and the wizards will see it.
They do. It's called a shield. I don't understand your logic. You realize it will take hundreds of tons of explosives to penetrate the shield, but you think nerve gas is going to penetrate it? WTF?
No they aren't. Prove it'll get through the shield though
Whoa. WTF are you talking about? I'm giving the wizards their most exotic implements? Even though I banned potions and such? Wow, either some serious bias or serious illiteracy spreading here. It's hilarious the biased trolling that's going on here.
If the US get their most powerful weapons (nukes), the wizards get their most powerful weapons (time travel and Felix, amongst others) as well to even it out. It's quite simple. You could say I "gimped" both sides here, because they both have weapons they can't use. You want an unfair fight where the US curbstomp, but that's not going happen. If you want to argue the US get nukes, then the wizards get their potions to make it fair. And if they get the Felix Felicis potion they literally can not lose, and thus it would be a curbstomp for them. Anyone who uses logic can easily see why I had to take away from both sides here.
The wizards were never shown to run away after their shield was broken. What makes you think they would now? And since when does Voldemort, backed by an extremely large and powerful army, just run and hide? Or just hide behind a shield instead of actually fighting? Seems like you are having them fight according to what you want and not what's in character for them
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Because they have 469 square miles, as opposed to just Hogwarts
So basically you want to gimp the wizards with CIS. That's not happening
BTW, is it "in character" for the US to immediately drop nukes like it's no tomorrow, completely neglecting how the radioactive fallout could spread to other Californian cities (and internationally, considering LA is next to the Pacific). Again, it's hilarious how you think the US is going to go for the most efficient tactic possible, but you want to gimp the wizards with CIS
I never once said the US would use nukes and i've stated that i think it is fair to take them off the table completely. I know you've been up against a few different posters in this thread but it really looks bad when you start using stances i've never taken to make a point.
Let's stick to the point at hand shall we? What makes you believe the wizards will fight in a way they've never been shown to before? Or are we taking CIS off?
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Of course we are taking CIS off, for both the wizards and the military. It wouldn't really be a test of skills if it were on. CIS would pretty much derail the point of the thread
Ok so then what was the point in arguing that the US wouldn't use their most powerful weapon up front? If CIS is off then yeah they'd use nukes if they could.
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So then the wizards will use their most powerful weapons up front, Felix Felicis (which automatically ensures their win) and time travel, amongst others. It would be a curbstomp for the wizards. Conversely, if you say the wizards don't get their potions but the military still get their nukes, it would be a curbstomp for the military. You see why I had to ban both.
after it was proven that the u.s. would easily win, the premise was modified into silliness by lestov.
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I completely see why you banned these things but i don't think you have said CIS was off before now. If you have i must have missed it and apologise.
And again uber rare potions and time turners are not something the wizards usually have which is why banning them doesn't take much away from them and why people are arguing it.
So just to be clear now your stance is that the wizards will create a super shield and just sit behind it while the US tries and fails to break it? And if they ever do the wizards will just teleport somewhere else and erect another shield? Rinse and repeat?
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WTF are you trolling about? No nukes was in The OP. You are the one trying to modify the thread to give the US nukes despite the OP banning them, and you are so butthurt you don't see how doing so would make a horribly mismatched spite thread, like you supposedly want to avoid. You just want the wizards to lose and you don't care if they get unfairly curbstomped by nukes. What a troll
lestov also ignores that the US military literally has thousands of bombs in their inventory.
Hell, more than 4,500 Mk 82 bombs were dropped on Iraq during the Persian Gulf War.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
this in not the same as "they have no nukes". just as silly, but not the same. cry more
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sure, it says no nukes in the OP, but when presented with a myriad of other ways the military would win (non-nuclear missiles, bombers, drones, etc), you began to modify the thread rules in order to keep the wizards from losing.
irrc 50 cal sniper rifles were also disqualified on the grounds that the u.s. would win. hardly fitting for a spite thread to not systematically gimp the opposition.
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You are giving the US their most powerful weapon ever (which they only used twice 68 years ago and never again) but are not allowing the wizards access to theirs. That's pretty damn unfair and is basically gimping the wizards.
Pretty much. What else can happen? US can't enter the shield, and any ground forces that manage to will be telefragged with fiendfyres. LA is one of the largest cities on Earth.
Without nukes (and even with nukes), there's nothing to stop them from teleporting 100 miles away safe from harm. Whatever airstrike the US is deploying, even if it breaks the shield, certainly will not have a 100 mile range. Even if we took the most powerful US nuke of all time, the B53, it only has a maximum radius of 40 miles. That's not nearly enough to cover the 469 sq mile area of LA. That being stated, I'm unaware of how the shield deals with blinding EMR, so the nuke has that advantage.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
even by your laughably spiteful modifications, the wizards do not win. its a stalemate.
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Again, LA is 469 square miles wide and the wizards can instantly teleport to any of those miles they wish. No airstrike, nuclear or otherwise, can cover 469 miles simultaneously. And any airstrike that could would undoubtedly kill both the pilot and citizens in multiple other Californian cities, not to mention spread nuclear fallout internationally through the Pacific.
Whoa! Put down your crack pipe for a minute would you? When did I say this?
Actually the US lost because they couldn't retake the city. Every second any wizards are in LA is a loss for the US. But I'll be nice. The US can't affect the wizards through the shield, but I don't believe the wizards can affect the military through the shield either. So yeah, I agree. Stalemate /thread
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Feb 27th, 2013 09:06 AM
Any US ground forces get telefragged with fiendfyres. They can also fly as well, with enough speed to collapse a bridge
That's not happening
