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Marvel_Mystic
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So Shuma is officially more powerful than Dormammu

I always thought otherwise but it looks like the latest issue of Doctor Strange (2015) makes it clear that Dormammu is Shuma-Gorath's inferior. It might even hint at Shuma-Gorath being the most powerful mystic entity with the way the Empirikul wanted him above all other magic users. What do you guys think? I do think it's cool that Dormammu and S-G have finally met in the comics and it's not just relegated to Marvel vs Capcom 3 interaction.

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Well, that settles that debate I suppose.


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Re: So Shuma is officially more powerful than Dormammu

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I always thought otherwise but it looks like the latest issue of Doctor Strange (2015) makes it clear that Dormammu is Shuma-Gorath's inferior. It might even hint at Shuma-Gorath being the most powerful mystic entity with the way the Empirikul wanted him above all other magic users. What do you guys think? I do think it's cool that Dormammu and S-G have finally met in the comics and it's not just relegated to Marvel vs Capcom 3 interaction.

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Holy Sh|T. eek!

This came out in 2015 and we're just now seeing it? Someone page Cort stat!


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Holy Sh|T. eek!

This came out in 2015 and we're just now seeing it? Someone page Cort stat!


The first issue came out in 2015 but this is from #16 which just released yesterday. They sure take their time with this series lol

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So according to the Damnation story by Cates, Mephisto is now superior to both Dormammu and Shuma-Gorath as he beat them in a an all out war and locked the other two in a necrotic subrealm along with Nightmare, shown in Doctor Strange #389 which came out yesterday. Power levels and lore consistency be damned lol. Cates also says Dormammu is a hell lord like Mephisto. Idiots writing for Marvel these days haha

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So according to the Damnation story by Cates, Mephisto is now superior to both Dormammu and Shuma-Gorath as he beat them in a an all out war and locked the other two in a necrotic subrealm along with Nightmare, shown in Doctor Strange #389 which came out yesterday. Power levels and lore consistency be damned lol. Cates also says Dormammu is a hell lord like Mephisto. Idiots writing for Marvel these days haha


Not sure if they're more powerful than Cyttorak though

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So according to the Damnation story by Cates, Mephisto is now superior to both Dormammu and Shuma-Gorath as he beat them in a an all out war and locked the other two in a necrotic subrealm along with Nightmare, shown in Doctor Strange #389 which came out yesterday. Power levels and lore consistency be damned lol. Cates also says Dormammu is a hell lord like Mephisto. Idiots writing for Marvel these days haha
in case you didn't know, the current cosmic structure in marvel is in flux. Ever since Galactus became the lifegiver, abstract level characters have been vying for different positions of power.


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in case you didn't know, the current cosmic structure in marvel is in flux. Ever since Galactus became the lifegiver, abstract level characters have been vying for different positions of power.


why is that affecting non-cosmic entitites though?

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Marvel is in a current state of ass flux and writers have been vying for the position of who's the worst


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Cates also says Dormammu is a hell lord like Mephisto.


Well, he's often been classified as such.


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Well, he's often been classified as such.


would be nice if marvel editors at least demanded some consistency in the classificstion of their gods and cosmics though. shuma isnt an elder god but they have been calling him one a lot lately, and calling a fear lord like nightmare a hell lord and putting him and mephisto on the same level as shuma and dormammu is nuts, though i guess it isnt as bad as lord chaos and master order being able to kill the living tribunal. really messes with forum battles though because how do we know whats an actual power representation or just an outlier?

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Marvel editors are slackers, especially in the latest decade+...


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in case you didn't know, the current cosmic structure in marvel is in flux. Ever since Galactus became the lifegiver, abstract level characters have been vying for different positions of power.
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why is that affecting non-cosmic entitites though?


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Marvel is in a current state of ass flux and writers have been vying for the position of who's the worst
lol, so true.

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Re: So Shuma is officially more powerful than Dormammu

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It might even hint at Shuma-Gorath being the most powerful mystic entity with the way the Empirikul wanted him above all other magic users.


Where does that place Zom?

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Where does that place Zom?


No idea. At this point I'm not even gonna try speculating how strong mystic entities are in comparison to each other since writers are so inconsistent.

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