Thor is a far better movie is what I said. I want it to be profitable enough to warrant more films and be an improvement over the previous Thor film. Justice League is a team film and I never claimed Thor would destroy it at the box office. I claimed it would be by far the superior film. I'll be right and be able to co firm that next Thursday. I have yet to see any DC film twice at the theatre. I already saw Thor Ragnarok twice and purchased it on my ps4.
Who cares about YouTube hits you loser. disney is printing money at this point whereas it'll be a win for DC if the film is ok. That's how low the expectations are here. What's even better as I said is they have scraped their difference universe and just trying to ape marvel. They already came in for sloppy seconds of Whedon to fix their directors mess.
Why wouldn't I not compare them? Did CW have bad WOM for such a low multiplier? I was comparing the two because you were saying a high RT score means a high multiplier. That isn't always the case, sporto.
No you didn’t. Because Civil War has a higher OW than both but you repeatedly went on about its poor multiplier (even though it’s multiplier was better than BvS’s).
This is funny because you compare the first 4 DCEU films to the first 4 MCU films all the time, even though it was a different market place then as well.
That’s great for TDK. But don’t know why it’s relevant to the discussion at hand.
Yes Wonder Woman did great. But if you want to compare multipliers the DCEU doesn’t do well next to the MCU at all(aside from WW). You also ignore budgets. The DCEU’s budget up to JL is larger than the MCU’s budget up to Avengers despite having done 1 less film!
Just face facts the DCEU film doesn’t stack up to the MCU. Even Henry Cavill admits that. Face facts, stop whining about it, and just hope the DCEU improves and gives us more gems like Wonder Woman.
Yes, I did. A while back you and I were comparing MOS Ow/ multiplier to films like Thor. You were boasting that they had stronger multipliers, but I pointed out that MOS had a higher OW and was frontloaded. Never mind that, just because CW had a higher OW, doesn't give it an excuse for such a poor multiplier.
Its not nearly as different than it was in the 80's or even 90's when more people actually went to the theater on average. Plus, the tweets I posted already highlighted that fact that markets have expanded, but,in the studios case and for news sake,,its all about the dollar. Hardly any news site will bring up past movies,from previous decades.
Because you were bringing up past movies.
Budgets are a tricky thing, because you nor I really don't know how much WB actually spends at the end of the day. MOS had a,high budget, but recouped a lot back from promotional dollars. The same was for BVS. We've been over this many times, Darth.
Urm Iron Man 1 and Iron Man 2 both outsold MOS domestically, despite MOS having the bigger OW. So your point doesn’t stand. DCEU films have had poor multipliers until Wonder Woman.
Jeez dude Civil War made over 1.1 Billion. Stop whining about it’s multiplier. Marvel has built up its fan base over multiple movies.
You’re right. Markets are much Bigget Now.
Point is you should compare Wonder Woman first solo film to the first solo films of those other Icons!
It doesn’t matter what they recoup through promotions because I’m not talking about profits.
I’m saying the DCEU needed A-List characters and massive budgets to get those higher turnovers for the first 4 movies you keep boasting about.
Heck Marvel wasn’t even under the Disney Banner at time. It was basically an independent company.
So you admit to quality wise Marvel wins so that's that. You admit it. Quality is the most important factor in this equation from a fans perspective.
Box office wise it isn't close Marvel has made far more money and they have plenty more films on the way compared to DC. Dc has to make more movies to stand a chance. No one is stopping them, boy.
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Much bigger Budgets, a bigger market place, More Iconic Characters, had the WB Banner the whole time e.t.c. But by all means let’s just ignore context.
Anyway Wait to see how close JL comes to Avengers before you go on about “it’s box Office is better”.
Also this “Phase I” excuse is BS. Marvel’s Phase I was when Marvel first got their own studio. WB have been making DC films for decades.
How does IM have to do with CW having a poor multiplier? Its not whining, its facts. No need to cry about it.
[/quote]You’re right. Markets are much Bigget Now.
Point is you should compare Wonder Woman first solo film to the first solo films of those other Icons![/quote]
Why would I compare WW to Batman or Superman? Cap is considered an icon and his movie doesn't compare to WW.
Promotional dollars does not always equal profit, though. Its the same with tax incentives.
Its not WB fault that their a list characters make bank. WB has,been pushing most of these characters out way before Marvel, so they deserve the success.
Besides, most of the current hits aren't A list, but obscure, smaller characters.