I thought the Watchmen was really good and even liked the movie ending better then Moore's, but then again, I had read the book before the movie came out. Seems like the people who didnt care for it had no idea what it was about beforehand. Thats cool because it wasnt a typical superhero movie where there was senseless action and fighting throughout. It leaned more on the intellectual side. The Watchmen is considered one of the greatest comic books ever written and the movie copied it. Cant see how comic book fans did not like the movie.
The JLA can work and will make money when and if it ever gets done, but like somebody else has already said, it will be labeled as the other Avengers movie. That doesnt bode well for it.
Doc Manhattan and Ozymandias were merciless. We all knew Manhattan was #1 though.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
One thing I will agree on is that Manhattan would crush Superman. Then again the guy got his ass kicked by some bully in a diner showing without his powers he's a joke.
Movie Superman is molecularly (as in periodic table) light years beyond Doctor Manhattan's physiology. Even though he recreated his form into indestructible matter from the sub-atomic level, you don't see him barreling through the atmosphere manipulating his center of gravity to go back in time or hauling radioactive materials that negate his equivalent ability to psi-consciously manipulate intrinsic fields sorround atoms (Superman's Kryptonite-esque).
The new Superman probably won't be as powerful as Doctor Manhattan though. More on movie Thor and Hulk's level, with considerably greater speed and striking power than the two.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Feb 16th, 2013 at 09:12 PM
I think I may be the only one actually excited for JL.
Reason 1, The line up. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and Flash. We already know batman and superman no matter which incarnation it is, we know them (hopefully Cavil will be reprising his role). GL has already had a stand alone movie so his foundations are set. The only two needing introducing are flash and wonder woman. Flash doesn't need a great back story. Just a hint would be enough to spawn a stand alone film. And as for wonder woman. Well Its wonder Woman. by 2015 the AMAZON show will be on air and movie goers will have an idea of her back story.
LOL. The guy was beaten up in a diner. The guy was dominated by Luthor and henchmen. The guy is easily beatable. The guy also failed to save Lois. Manhattan can't be harmed by Superman and is beyond him in terms of intelligence and raw power to the nth degree.
No Superman on screen has ever been on Manhattan's level. The guy is rocked by manholes and Coke signs while at the same time struggles to stop buses.
As far as education goes, Jor-El provided more education than any human being has. "Knowledge from dozens of other worlds spanning 28 galaxies." The knowledge of a civilization thousands of years ahead of humanity. As for intelligence he's a Kryptonian thousands of years ahead of any human being, including some Physicist who has gained psi-conscious awareness....beings in such an advanced civilization would need to be millions times more intelligent to grasp all the knowledge alone. As for power, Doctor Manhattan can create life but he'd never be able to alter his molecular structure through manipulation of sub-atomic particles, to gain the physical abilities of a Kryptonian under yellow sunlight, pertaining only the five movies released. His feats don't match up, why would you take any weaknesses like Kryptonite when considering pure unspoiled physical and supernatural power between the two? One can only rationlize through direct feats. Doctor Manhattan can stop nuclear missiles, so can Superman, Doctor Manhattan can manipulate matter, Superman can't, Superman can propel himself at limitless speeds to traverse time and has unlimited invulnerability (excluding Kryptonite) and possesses infinite strength, Doctor Manhattan can't and does not.
In fact, Superman destroy the world's nuclear arsenal, preventing the threat of nuclear annihiliation, Doctor Manhattan had to find an alternative energy source, he didn't have the sheer speed nor the awareness to destroy all of them, as stated by Ozymandias. Superman simply zipped around, got all the missiles, and tossed them into the sun.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Feb 18th, 2013 at 04:49 AM
Dr. Manhattan is far superior to any human being. For all Jor-El's intelligence he didn't save his people. LOL. I could care less if they are ahead of earth they aren't ahead of Manhattan. Manhattan doesn't need to gain their abilities because frankly it'd be a downgrade.
I don't expect Superman fans to grasp common sense so don't worry I will go easy on you. If he had unlimited vulnerability he'd never have been hurt. Listen don't waste my time with your fanfiction. The guy was worked on screen and struggled with a bus yet you claim infinite strength. LOL. Manhattan doesn't need to do so. Manhattan can replicate his body and reform from having his form completely destroyed. Superman struggles with a human opponent in Luthor so it seems Luthor is more intelligent than Superman directly. LOL.
Superman isn't even the smartest guy in his own movies. An earth man is smarter than him. Again Jor-El's civilization 's progress has no bearing on a guy who grew up on a farm so please make an actual point.
Manhattan didn't interfere as much and was more passive but unlike Superman was never threatened by any of his foes. Superman was mainly threatened by his human adversary with no super powers of his own making it that much more embarrassing.
Manhattan>>>>>>Superman. It's not up for discussion. Just leave with whatever pride you have left at this point.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Mar 4th, 2013 at 07:42 PM
With Batman DC already has the edge of Marvel. Star Wars is there real competition, DC has better funding and better writers than Marvel.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
I don't mind Bale reprising his role but they're really going to have to redesign his costume to make it more agile & flexible. Otherwise he's gonna look awkward & clumsy in a JL group fight situation.
Also more live wire action where Batman can be seen leaping & "gliding" with his cape.
Avengers is superior to any Batman film. That's just one marvel franchise. Xmen, Spiderman, Hulk, Ironman, Blade, Thor, etc. LOL at comparing the Batman to the entire marvel film universe.
if Dc has better funding that's worse on their part. saying they have better writing is subjective. Marvel is more successful hands down. Bottom line is money and marvel is handing them their asses. Arguing dc spends more money and makes less than marvel is actually a point in marvel's favor.