Thats not what I was asking for though was it? I was asking if Achilles' apparent superior skill and battle awareness would allow him to react to Zants TK blast, let alone defeat him. Because if he cant do so then bringing up Zant here is pointless.
Then you're standing alone on the fictional term of 'peak human' which all those people are. And what even makes you think their awareness is 'beyond' Link's? You havnt shown anything that goes against Link.
Woah keep your pants on sparky, I was just listing an example with closer relation to this thread.
So youre answer to how would he react to Zant is for him to do it before the attack? Massive dodge on what was asked. Do you even remember the scene? Zant stands there, motionless, then without moving a shockwave erupts from his body.. at what point does superior awareness kick in? What makes you think lifting, cocking an arm and throwing a spear would happen faster than Zant's thought?
Not that I want to start a pointless point, but anything that makes him below average? Accepting that he wouldn't use his wolf form in combat then.
The arrow was more like dumb luck, unless you think he could magically react to a fired arrow without ever seeing it.. Just watched it again and the only time he took on more than two at once, happened twice, was where the third person stood out of reach. Still no awareness some goddly level above humans.
And why not when we have the dev himself saying he is when talking about him moving huge stone blocks? Thats both confirmation and him telling us that that is the portrayal he wanted in the game.
You admit he's superhumanly strong + Creator admits he's portrayed to be superhumanly strong to do his feats + Link doing said feats = Link is superhumanly strong to be able to do those feats.
The thing is I know Achilles is skilled, seen the clips, but all we've seen to comment on his skill is taking on 2+ people at once and defeating humans. TP Link might not have some highly impressive skill montage (besides defeating several weaponed things, at times in groups, or beating monsters that one-shot elite knights), but as you've said he is skilled to be able to do the things he does.
So there would have to be a good legit reason to why Achilles' skill trumps Links.
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Yes, because his instincts are far greater than Link's are. It's obvious. If you disagree then that is your right.
The video has already been posted where he stormed the beach and overtook it with a handful of soldiers. Link is in capable of such a thing. He is seems to be quite reliant on Midna with help against single enemies or a small number throughout the majority of the game.
I am actually surprised you came back from the asskicking you have been taking.
As soon as Zant appeared Achilles would throw a spear at him and charge him throwing his concentration off. Link stood there like some canadian hillbilly. Achilles would react before Zant did so. Link's inaction is what cost him not zant's speed.
I am saying he is stupid as in can't talk and acts stupid.
So the arrow was dumb luck he held his shield up to block it despite the movie shoving down his superiority and skill levels to uber levels the entire movie. You think the point of that scene was to show how lucky Achilles can be in combat. Fanboys.
Yes, it shows he can lift but it doesn't translate over to combat like in most areas of fiction. Fanboys take any charcaters highest feats and ignore all else. Zelda fans are that to a t.
I have already explained myself on this matter thoroughly. I hope from my response earlier in the thread you can finally accept or hopefully see what my position is here.
Achilles beats skilled humans. He destroys highly skilled opponents to the point no one can even beat him in combat or come close. Link mainly fights slobs, henchmen, or monsters all lacking skill. His skill levels are rammed through the game to be important and also fall perfectly into my he doesn't have superhuman strength that his opponents can't hope to fight against theory.
We don't see Link use anywhere near the skill Achilles consistently demonstrates in the movie against skilled/organized opponents. That's another criticism of Zelda games. These monsters are dumb/unorganized/fools who show up a few at a time and don't really show any military intelligence of any kind. Just like this magic/these forces can take over shitbag Hyrule. One of the weakest fictional locations I can recall off the top of my head.
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Boots make the feat possible. Link doesn't have the strength to achieve the feat in the game without the boots. The game shows you it is impossible without the gear. Fanboys.
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1. Yes, there is an 'E' in argument.
2. I didn't make the image.
3. Don't change the topic.
The topic is thus:
Quanchi refuses to answer a simple question he knows the answer to because he's afraid of what the answer to the question implies. That's quite a lot more failure than just putting an extra 'E' in argument.
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Unlike you I can tell you why the question is irrelevant. You demonstrate no thought capacity or logic of any kind. You peddle other people's arguments you heard in the video game versus forum. It's sad.
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1. What you just said didn't make sense.
2. No, you did not answer my question.
My question was "Do the boots make Link stronger?". My question was not "Hey, Quan, are you of the irrelevant opinion that Link could or could not stop a mass much heavier than himself in motion that is rolling down hill at him without an increase to his own weight?".
Do the boots make him stronger?
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