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That's not that big of a deal, though. Physical power was never the Z fighters' forte, it was ki projection. I still need to see the movie, but until I know how powerful Bills is and whether he compares I can't make the call. What I have seen so far does not point to a gamechanger, and Mjolnir still has it's energy absorption.
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The very weakest of incarnations of DBZ characters regularly withstood the physical force necessary to pulverize countless tons of solid rock. The second weakest villain in the series casually tore holes through military-grade metal. A little 7 year old Saiyan through rocks hard/fast enough they bored holes through solid rock. There are times when two characters fists or knees make contact and the shockwaves crack stone and kick up debris. None of these feats required effort on their part. Immense physical power has always been the Z fighters' forte.
What show were you watching?
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Last edited by Lord Lucien on Jun 12th, 2013 at 06:31 AM
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A lot of that stuff isn't in the manga, and anyway, all of those characters could do much greater things with ki projection than physical blows. All of them.
Nappa rips a wing? His ki blast levels a city or something, (forget, been a long time) Frieza punches Goku into a hole? His ki attacks can bust planets. So on and so forth.
During the Buu saga base Goku was stated to struggle with 40 tons. [csm]shrug[/csm All in all, Dragonball is nutty inconsistant with that, but meh.
Their ki will always and has always been greater, thoguh, that is their strength. (Forte is literally french for strong or strength, I forget which).
Unfortunately for DBZ characters, Mjolnir.
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your statement about them being physically weak is wrong. The have the physical strength and some to put thor down. Never mind adding in the crazy speed as well
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I never said they were 'physically weak'. I said physical power isn't their forte, and that is true. Thor has the durability and damage soak to handle anything I've ever seen from a DBZ character. They lack a way to handle Mjolnir's energy manipulating powers.
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You're right about their physical "power", the ability to inflict damage with their body parts. But physical "strength" as taken to be "endurance"--nope. Cut in half, drained of energy, duck-faced, and having a planet explode around him, still wasn't enough to destroy Frieza's tattered remains. Non-SSJ, already injured, and Vegeta's body still withstands 400Gs. Their "punching power" may be inconsistent, but their physical endurance is f*cking enormous. I don't know what Mjolnir can do, but it better be able to deliver more damage than an exploding planet did to Frieza's nearly-dead body. Except... you know, to SSJ2 Goku.
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I dunno, man, their endurance when put against physical blows seems to be vastly different than their endurance to ki and energy attacks.
The simple fact that their ki and energy attacks are so much more powerful and yet they can be physically blocked with the forearms without exploding a character who takes similar damage from the punches and kicks of his enemies makes me think as much.
As for Mjolnir and Thor, they are not short on destructive feats. Most recently in God of Thunder Thor was shattering planets and moons with the shockwaves from his attacks against an enemy. He's harmed Surtur with it and hurt galactus in the past.
The real problem though is that mjolnir can manipulate energy, IE ki. It can absorb, drain, and deflect it and stuff. It has other exotic powers, too, but yeah.
Also, Thor's fought inside the sun and other stars before, and even did so again in issue 9 of God of Thunder, where the collateral damage from his blows was wrecking things, and has durability and damage soak that I don't think any Z fighter could possibly get through.
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Woah wait wait wait... Thor's hammer can manipulate an energy that doesn't exist in his own fictional universe?
Can he manipulate the Force, too?
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Jun 11th, 2013 03:08 PM
They lack a way to handle Mjolnir's energy manipulating powers.
