true, but thank god the game explained why he is such an idiot in Origins and City, and how Venom has a impact on the Brain an Memory, so props to WB Montreal for solving that Puzzle, but Bane in the Fight was still whooping his ass, Better than Asylum and City, idk man Bane is the most Challenging Boss Fight, in the Game, Deathstroke was JUST ****ING EPIC, i literally made two save datas at the Part where i fight Deathstroke, so i could fight him any time i feel like it, and its AMAZING, but he's not as challenging as Bane is, cuz i aced Deathstroke in NEw Game Plus with no Counter Sign Showing Up, and i got the achievement, so yeah lol,
Dont know how would Bane work in predator mode though since he doesnt use gadgets at all also the lack of special vision.
Also better costumes next time Noel was good,Injustice as well others weren't anything special even from all the DLC stuff the only i like is the Azrael one but since its PS3 I cant get it.
They should keep the avatar awards.
Copy this crime reconstruction and add new stuff to it more crime related sidemissions.Keep the appearing crimes in the game it was always fun to step into an ongoing event.Expand the batcave with more options to choose from.Keep the fast travel.
Have to agree Deathstroke was a better boss Bane was more challanging but the the only thing you could screw up is dodging his ramming attack besides that he was easy....
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Had that happen to me once or twice. Restarting from last checkpoint usually fixed that for me though. I also usually KO the glowing thug you have to interrogate for last and take out everyone else first.
The funniest bug I encountered was during the final Bane fight, where when he was looking for me in one section, he got stuck in a corner and walked around in a circle without actually moving for a few seconds. Looked like Bane was doing a dance.
Cool as that would be, I don't think they would go out of their way to make THAT many villains playable. Do kinda wish though that Deathstroke had his own mini-campaign in Origins like Catwoman did in Arkham City. Like he'd be doing some of his own assassinations/contracts before being hired by Black Mask to take down the bat.
Sure, one could argue it'd be unnecessary, but I could easily say the same about Catwoman's campaign who I hated getting around with, sexy walking aside.
On the subject of females though, I actually would like to play as Shiva in a game.
Bane was easily one of the best boss fights in Origins [SPOILER - highlight to read]: before he took that other formula and lost much of his memory, anyway. His Arkham Asylum and City encounters were a joke in comparison.
Wonder what other new enemy types they could have. The kung-fu guys in Origins definitely took some getting used to as far as timing the counters without losing the combo.
Just hope Nightwing isn't as slow far as running speed and such like he was in City, if he does return. Was disappointing that he didn't have a post-game mini-campaign like Robin did (Harley Quinn's Revenge).
Well his charges were definitely faster and more unpredictable than they were in Arkham Asylum, not to mention they're harder to dodge. I jump evaded a lot and he still got me. Figured you would have to do a bunch of ultra stuns and beatdowns on him though, but still way better than his fight(s) in the previous games.
Shiva left more of an impression on me than most of those you mentioned, and what? No Talia?
On that note, they should've given Deathstroke more of the extra costumes that he had in Injustice in challenge mode (like Red Son, since they have the Batman one), though did like how he had his default Injustice skin there.
Agreed on the rest.
Oh yeah, after seeing [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Gordon actually fight alongside you in one part, I would kinda like to see him do silent takdedowns and stuff.
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Im not saying Bane fight was bad at all it was challenging but he never fights like that in the comics.....even on venom he still uses his fighting skills like in the Assassins intro where he whooped the 2 enforcers.
Lets hope Rocksteady copies the good stuff from this one.
Also remove the multiplayer it's totally useless .
Also if they make other characters playable forget the idea of snapflash it's useless crap.Give them unique stuff like Nightwing's darts or his escrima stick which was awesome that you could ricochet stun people with it from corners.
I honestly though the Bane fight was okay, I'm just tied of dodging charging brutes. Bane is capable of so much more.
I don't agree that Shiva was more memorable than Ivy, Harley or especially Selina. In my haste I did genuinely forget Talia, but I think her role wasn't much larger than Shiva's if at all.
I'd be fine if they removed the multiplayer in future game(s) based on what I mostly heard about it, but if they do I'd want some other new mode or something added in its place instead of only having more of the same old challenge maps outside the story.
Bane does it in a way that's different from the others though with how hard it is to dodge and stuff. Still, I agree.
Didn't say she was more memorable than all of them, and by memorable I didn't mean so much Shiva's boss fight (which obviously could've been done better), but character-wise. I agree that like Harley in the previous games is more memorable than her, but Ivy? Hell nah, and Selina I don't really care much for like I said. Guess she's just someone I grew tired of due to overexposure in games and stuff this gen.
Talia's role was mostly at the end of City's story, but eh, she didn't have to have a huge role or anything for me to like her inclusion, which is still more than can be said for how I (and many) felt about her execution in the Dark Knight Rises.
I was speaking about character wise lol. I am a massive Selina and Harley fan, so there's that to be considered. I think Ivy, across both games, has more of an impact than Shiva. I honestly wished there had been a bit more to Bruce Vs Shiva, as I personally think they should only fight one on one.
IDK Man Ivy wasn't really important in the Arkham Series, Only in Asylum and DLC for City, but she did have a bigger Role/impact than Shiva, and that disappointed me, i though i was in for the Fight of my Life, i though it was Deathstroke/Copperhead/Bane X10, but nope she played like a Martial Arts Thug, with prissy little Talia Ninjas
As for Bane and his portrayal, he was Solidly portrayed personality,strength, and intelligence wise, the Boss Fight was A ***** to deal with, with his Brute Charge and thugs interrupting my Sexy Combo Flow lol, i haven't even fought him in New Game Plus so i know im gonna lose my mind, i believe i lost 7 Times to Bane without his Jacket and Venom Boost, all because i didn't know how to properly dodge it, but thats besides the point Bane in the Game was portrayed excellently imo, the Boss fights to, and to me thats a Comic style Bane, cuz he is Batman's most Deadly Foe, and i don't even know hoe people think DS can Beat him in H2H, he was done some Justice in this Game, and so was Deathstroke, but imo the prioritizing on the more deadly foe was done well, to me its Bane>Deathstroke(not by much, but enough)
as for the Arkham Sequel i want Red Hood to be Playable and some what integral to the Story and FOR BLACK MASK TO REALLY BE THE VILLIAN FOR REAL, In a Game that captured every Batman Villains Personality and Nailed their Portrayal perfectly, ****S OVER BLACK MASK, WHY!!!, Help me understand that, cuz hopefully im not the only one that Black Mask was done some Injustice, and how did he lose in a fight against the Joker, when it said in the Game Informer Magazine that " Black Mask is formidable in Hand to Hand Combat, and wont be getting thrown around like Penguin" THATS QUOTE ON QUOTE RIGHT FROM THE MAGAZINE and then He's a Thug Level Boss Fight, DAFUQ man can someone explain that SHIT if you agree, like what are your thoughts on that, cuz that pissed me off
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Black Mask was also undersold in this Game to, and DS importance wise, mostly Black Mask, who was advertised, trailer after trailer as the Main Boss, only for him to be a THUG level opponent as well as lose to the Joker
I also agree on DS. He should have been a much bigger part of the story, and I'm one of those people who believe that DS would absolutely destroy Bane in a fight, with or without Venom. He would have also put up much more of a fight against Batman, if not won. He and Shiva deserved better. I've never been a huge Black Mask fan, but this game seemed pretty disrespectful to his character. Even Penguin had better treatment.
are you kidding me, in H2H he would whoop Banes @$$, in the Comics, DS Stated that the only reason he can beat Batman, is because he is stronger, not cuz he's better than him in Martial Arts, Bane has both of those, so how can he not Beat Deathstroke?, ooh man i cant wait till DC puts them 2 together in a Fight, hopefully that will be in the Arkham Wars
other than that, Bane is still more dangerous, and Killer Croc to but he's Underrated as ****, and they downplay the Crap out of him, He's Bullet Proof, and can regenerate his limbs, along with his already immense strength, in a random encounter, Swords and a Gun does DS no Good
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I cant tell if that first comment is saying Bane would beat Deathstroke or that Deathstroke would beat Bane. Bane got taken out in Knightfall (his best appearance) by Jean-Paul, who definitely is NOT a better fighter than Batman. He was just willing to kill. I'm pretty sure Bruce would trash JP in hand to hand, so there is no way that Bane is anywhere near as skilled as Bats. I also believe that Deathstroke is just as skilled as Batman in hand to hand. He's beaten much stronger and faster opponents in fights (like Starfire, or even the entire Teen Titans team at the same time). He's also trashed Batman pretty easily.
I also cant tell if you're talking about Bane being able to regenerate with immense strength, and regeneration or Killer Croc, but I'll assume you mean Killer Croc. Killer Croc is an absolute monster, but Bane fought him in Knightfall. Bane trashed the holy hell out of him and broke his arm (although Croc was a lot weaker back then I think, and has been portrayed as much bigger and stronger due to the Hush virus).
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I don't agree that he was just another Thug, but yeah, they really did swerve some.
I will admit though, that when I found out that he was the main villain in the game, I was honestly surprised. To the casual fan he ISN'T that well known, so it would have been a risk to make him the main villain, I think. I'm not saying it should have been Joker, but still.
I like Bane as a character (in comics, movies and games), and even in this game I thought he was well represented. I just didn't want another "dodge charging brute then stun him" fight.
At least they tried to mix it up with the counters.
Really? I need to get on that. I haven't read too much of New52, but I hear DS has been rocking bullet proof armor now. What has he done thats more impressive than KOing Starfire with blunt force?
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FOR REAL, In a Game that captured every Batman Villains Personality and Nailed their Portrayal perfectly, ****S OVER BLACK MASK, WHY!!!, Help me understand that, cuz hopefully im not the only one that Black Mask was done some Injustice, and how did he lose in a fight against the Joker, when it said in the Game Informer Magazine that " Black Mask is formidable in Hand to Hand Combat, and wont be getting thrown around like Penguin" THATS QUOTE ON QUOTE RIGHT FROM THE MAGAZINE and then He's a Thug Level Boss Fight, DAFUQ man can someone explain that SHIT if you agree, like what are your thoughts on that, cuz that pissed me off
