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(God Of War) Kratos Vs Alucard (Hellsing)
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TheAwesomeMan
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Originally posted by dika123
considering Kratos defeated universal beings easily, Kratos would just erase entire hellsingverse from existence so Alucard cannot use his omnipresence power.







meh.... Hellsingverse also is small compared to GoW verse.




I have play few of god of war games and I never see kratos has that kind of power.


Now you can keep going on whom kratos kill, only to prove that those being that kratos defeat are not immortal. Alucard however show that he cannot die from anything that throw on him. even holy weapons

Now with Schrödinger Powers. He exists as long as he believes he does.. He not alive or dead. He outside of time and reality

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You're the only one speculating. Because Alucard has no way of hurting Kratos. Name one thing he did that could harm a being as durable as Kratos.

Also Shcrodinger has shown no powers aside from appearing in different places and willing himself to not be dead. So he's not got Omnisicience or anything like that. Nor Omnipresence either. You're speculating and giving him powers.

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You're the only one speculating. Because Alucard has no way of hurting Kratos. Name one thing he did that could harm a being as durable as Kratos.

Also Shcrodinger has shown no powers aside from appearing in different places and willing himself to not be dead. So he's not got Omnisicience or anything like that. Nor Omnipresence either. You're speculating and giving him powers.


"Alucard has no way of hurting Kratos" The jackal with disagree on that. You don't need godlike weapons to kill Kratos. for example: in the first game Ares picked up a broken pillar and hurled it into the desert, which flew into Pandora's Tempe and struck Kratos in the chest, impaling him to a wall and killing him. Why did he die? cause he still HUMAN. he can still be wounded and be kill by anything that can kill a human beings. this is not speculating. This is fact. Alucard Strength is unknown but he has ripped through Alhambra's card (which that card sliced through a uranium shell at high speed). not to mention break Rip Van Winkle's magic bullet that made of Titanium. the same bullet which punctured a SR-71 moving down at Mach 3.2 speed several times in rapid succession and intercepted multiple missiles). My point is that Alucard has the strength to hurt kratos and even kill him. Why? cause again he still half human.

Now the major made it clear in the manga that Schrödinger can be everywhere and nowhere at the same time. That is define Omnipresence. Now the only difference between godlike Omnipresence beings and Schrödinger? is that one must have awareness and believe he exist to manifest in the world while other does not.




Now for the sake of the argument let say he is not Omnipresence. is that gonna give kratos a slightest victory? No.

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Why would the jackal hurt Kratos at all? Considering Kratos has tanked attacks from being like Zeus, Cronos who piss all over the Jackal in output. And you're seriously using Ares throwing a pillar at multi-mach speeds at Kratos as a low end showing? ****ing really?

Alcuard doesn't have the strength to make Kratos notice him. When Alucard can carry a mountain on his back for millennia and/or contend with a being who can do that (like, Kratos), let me know

Schrodinger can only really keep Alucard around. He's not hurting Kraots or doing much more than annoy him


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Why would the jackal hurt Kratos at all? Considering Kratos has tanked attacks from being like Zeus, Cronos who piss all over the Jackal in output. And you're seriously using Ares throwing a pillar at multi-mach speeds at Kratos as a low end showing? ****ing really?

Alcuard doesn't have the strength to make Kratos notice him. When Alucard can carry a mountain on his back for millennia and/or contend with a being who can do that (like, Kratos), let me know

Schrodinger can only really keep Alucard around. He's not hurting Kraots or doing much more than annoy him



The point I was making is that you don"t need godlike weapons or godlike powers to kill kratos. He not impossible to be killed. that why he always avoided thing that could kill him like the lava or falling from mountains. Alucard has the strength to break things that can slice through a uranium shell and has break Titanium. so his strength is indeed threat kratos. not to mention the jacket is like rocket launcher only made into pistol. couple shots to kratos head. HE DONE.


this is what would happen in this fight

Alucard would laugh all at kratos attack since he not able to be killed due to his Schrodinger ability. kratos would be so rage to the point becoming reckless, leaving the opening for Alucard hurt and kill him.


Now you let me know that kratos can regenerated from a pool of blood and from being decapitated, incinerated completely. or come back from being delete from existences

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Lava = gameplay mechanics. Duh.

Kratos tanked a volcanic eruption that sent him flying clear across the aegean sea. The same eruption sunk a pretty large island (atlantis) that it was not even directly connected to.

Thats far, far above gigatons range and kratos was fine.

Alucard cant hurt kratos. Too weak in damage output.


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Lava = gameplay mechanics. Duh.

Kratos tanked a volcanic eruption that sent him flying clear across the aegean sea. The same eruption sunk a pretty large island (atlantis) that it was not even directly connected to.

Thats far, far above gigatons range and kratos was fine.

Alucard cant hurt kratos. Too weak in damage output.


well You got me there. But does not change the fact kratos still be killed by normal weapons. like i said Alucard has the strength to kill kratos

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The point I was making is that you don"t need godlike weapons or godlike powers to kill kratos.


Even though the pillar was thrown by a god but whatever

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He not impossible to be killed.


Never said he was (though I love how only you've bought that up, btw)

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that why he always avoided thing that could kill him like the lava or falling from mountains.


*crickets*

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Alucard has the strength to break things that can slice through a uranium shell and has break Titanium. so his strength is indeed threat kratos.


None of those remotely mean shit to anyone in GoW

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not to mention the jacket is like rocket launcher only made into pistol. couple shots to kratos head. HE DONE.


Err mah gerd a rocket launcher no wai!!!!!111!!!!


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this is what would happen in this fight

Alucard would laugh all at kratos attack since he not able to be killed due to his Schrodinger ability. kratos would be so rage to the point becoming reckless, leaving the opening for Alucard hurt and kill him.


Except Alucard has nothing that would make Kraots even notice him

Oh, and fanfiction.net is that way ----> https://www.fanfiction.net/

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Now you let me know that kratos can regenerated from a pool of blood and from being decapitated, incinerated completely. or come back from being delete from existences


He doesn't need to


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Also i think it really important Alucard can also be within kratos mind and mind freeze him the same way schrodinger did to zorin that allow seras to kill her.

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I kinda find it funny how few said Alucard pose no threat to kratos and yet not explaining much how he would handle Alucard or post Schrodinger. kratos is powerhouse that true. But facing someone whom impossible to kill. soon later something gotta give.


Alucard with Schrodinger powers he would just keep on kratos until he make mistake that would allowing him to win OR simple mind hack his mind. I forgot also mention that Alucard can be more then one place. so kratos would not able deal with that many of Alucard.

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kratos breaks planetary illusion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWyyWi3J4W0
and you should know that is the weakest Kratos.

Kratos break soul with his bare hand : https://youtu.be/2r2B0aisaLk?t=6m49s
it should be noted that is Depowered Kratos due to peserphone trick him to remove all of his powers using forsaken tree.

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I have play few of god of war games and I never see kratos has that kind of power.


Now you can keep going on whom kratos kill, only to prove that those being that kratos defeat are not immortal. Alucard however show that he cannot die from anything that throw on him. even holy weapons

Now with Schrödinger Powers. He exists as long as he believes he does.. He not alive or dead. He outside of time and reality


that is the reason. You only played the game.

in God of War series, there are Primordials which embodiment of concept, but they got killed by Cronos and Kratos defeat Cronos. So Kratos would just erase alucard from existence.

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Now you let me know that kratos can regenerated from a pool of blood and from being decapitated, incinerated completely. or come back from being delete from existences


he doesn't need to.. BTW Zeus itself would just atomize alucard lol.
ehh... actually he can if he comsume ambrosia on GoW comic. http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Ambrosia


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Also i think it really important Alucard can also be within kratos mind and mind freeze him the same way schrodinger did to zorin that allow seras to kill her.


zeus already tried that even worse. And yet Kratos still survive it.


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I kinda find it funny how few said Alucard pose no threat to kratos and yet not explaining much how he would handle Alucard or post Schrodinger. kratos is powerhouse that true. But facing someone whom impossible to kill. soon later something gotta give.


Alucard with Schrodinger powers he would just keep on kratos until he make mistake that would allowing him to win OR simple mind hack his mind. I forgot also mention that Alucard can be more then one place. so kratos would not able deal with that many of Alucard.


it's really funny because you wanked alucard so much. and yet you fail to give good reason why alucard would beat Kratos. lol


oh yeah.. Kratos would just petrify him, or BFR him to another dimension and let alucard fight his doppelganger for eternity. Or Kratos would just stopping time and destroy his soul several billions time.

plus Kratos is much faster than alucard lol.

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wow i made this thread last year lol base on the comment i am reading I can see why kratos would be the winner here.

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Yo dika123 I am gonna need you explain that to me on that whole "Kratos would just erase alucard from existence" Cause I play god of war 3 and i never see him delete anybody from existence. if I recall did kratos use the blade of olympus to kill Cronos?

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Alright I will withdraw my argument on Alucard beating kratos. I can see I have underestimate kratos. However. I fail to see how can kratos would win against Alucard post Schrodinger. No matter what kind weapons kratos has, hes not killing Alucard in this stage. Not to mention is he omnipresence or should I say Night omnipresence. How can kratos handle that? He can't he can choose be within kratos mind and the same time break though his heart from inside his chest. What stopping Alucard doing that? NOTHING!!!!




Kratos>>>>>> Alucard pre Schrodinger Alucard post Schrodinger>>>>> Kratos

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Post Schrodinger, it was said Alucard purged all his souls and only had Schrodinger's left. And he is not omnipresent. He was never shown being in more than one place at a time. Omnipresence means he's at the Major's side, with Seras, Zorin, Alucard, etc... all at the same time.

So with just Shcrodinger's soul, Kratos yanks it out with the Claw's of Hades and makes Alucard his slave.

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Post Schrodinger, it was said Alucard purged all his souls and only had Schrodinger's left. And he is not omnipresent. He was never shown being in more than one place at a time. Omnipresence means he's at the Major's side, with Seras, Zorin, Alucard, etc... all at the same time.

So with just Shcrodinger's soul, Kratos yanks it out with the Claw's of Hades and makes Alucard his slave.



'He absorbed the life of Warrant Officer Schrodinger, what you see now is nothing more than the assimilation of the nature of that life. He's Schrodinger's Cat, a self observation which possesses it's own will. He's a Cheshire cat that jumps around in a world where the probability of existence itself is equivocal. So long as he is cognizant of himself, he is BOTH everywhere and nowhere." The Major's EXACT words. This = super positioning, which = omnipresence.


So the claws of hades it not doing anything since wont able to make Alucard incognizant.

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This topic remind me of the old thread i made about is Schrodinger really Omnipresence. Everyone has mix opinions about Whatever he is or not. i am still not sure what he is, but i remember a thread i made about whom would win between Alucard and Raziel from soul reaver and someone clam that Soul Reaver can't deal with Alucard's quantum reality warping abilities..

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even Alucard on Kratos mind he would not do something that Kratos would notice to him, Alucard has weak output energy.

now tell me how his Omnipresence would help him to fight beings (like Kratos or cronos) who defeated universe level conceptual beings ?

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