Spawn had trouble with Violater while he has still adapting to his powers, and learning how to use them. However when Spawn fully mastered his powers, he was capable of battling, stalemating and in the end (with help) defeat Malebolgia a Ancient God (Think above Skyfather), ruler of the 8th layer of hell, and basically omnipotent in his own realm. Spawn at the first age is a complicated figure, he can be extremely weak given he doesn't know how to utilize his powers, neither does he know the scope of them. However I was under the impression, that unless stated otherwise, we use the strongest incarnation of the character from the given timeframe, (just like we use the strongest Link) and the strongest incarnation of Spawn ripes Link apart.
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This actually has me curious if you don't mind me asking ScreamPaste, you know Link pretty well, which would you say is the strongest overall? I always figured Fierce Diety was like a whole other level but as the general Links go I always thought Oot Link was the best in swordsmanship an stuff, where as TP Link had the edge in strength, while Majoras Mask Link (while being one of my favorites lol) was actually the weakest at base? I haven't played SS but I heard technically that's the "first" Link chronologically? Where would he fit in the whole thing? Wind Waker Link and A Link To The Past Link though I'm not sure about where they would fit either, although I heard A Link To The Past Link is actually one of the stronger ones? Where would you say they all rank?
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MM Link and OoT Link are the same person, just under different circumstances. It's hard to be definitive when speaking about which Link is most powerful because some of what makes their placements is circumstantial. For example, I would say aLttP Link end game is the strongest, because aLttP Link obtains the completed triforce. Most threads don't allow him to have that though due to it being unfair in most circumstances. Also, the Fierce Deity mask doesn't really have much in the way of feats. It makes a young Link larger and stronger, but we don't know much more.
My list would look something like this:
Top tier:
aLttP Or SS Link with Triforce.
High tiers:
OoT+MM Link
aLttP Link without the triforce.
OoT Link
WW Link
These three are in no real order except that I place OoT Link with MM factored in as well as the highest of them.
Mid tiers:
TP Link, while physically imposing lacks the magical capabilities of the others.
LoZ/LoZ2 Link, while theoretically extremely powerful, a combination of Early Installment Weirdness and 80's era gameplay means few usable feats.
Oracles of Ages/Seasons Link, separated from and teleported by the Triforce, fights lower threat enemies, including an incomplete Ganon. Has hax gear though.
Phantom Hourglass Link, no Master Sword. Nifty timestop, though.
Low Tiers:
SS Link sans Triforce.
MM Link
Awakening Link (T'was all a dream!)
The placement of MM Link is sketchy because there's some debate about whether he can hang with the mid or high tiers, I don't personally think that he can, despite having some pretty good feats, but this is my list so I do what I want! I would also consider even the lowest on that list to be low meta human, with the tops reaching into mid meta.
Also, there was apparently a Link before SS Link, the one that the Hero's Spirit originated in. You should really play SS though, great game. Loved it.
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MM is by far the fastest though. Plus some of his masks and items make him pretty tough. You always use gorons as proof for TP strength, so wouldn't being a goron put MM's strength up there along side TP.
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With the Goron mask MM Link's strength can indeed be said to be effing titanic, lol. I don't know what makes you say MM Link is fastest though, he is OoT Link in a younger body, and his best combat speed showings come from OoT.
MM Link lands where he is on this list for me for a couple reasons:
1. He doesn't have the Master Sword anymore.
2. His best feats all occured in OoT as an adult, he has good showings here as well, great for showing consistency, but they're just not 'as' good, imho.
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Ah thank you, that helps a lot actually lol xD. An I must say that actually has me pretty pumped that there was one before SS, I always was curious about the Heroes Spirit and who he was, I thought by chance he was OoT Link O_O, I was way off lmao. That's awesome I hope they look more into that, I'm really curious about his history :0. I def will probably give SS a try though, I've been in the mood for a good Zelda game, I recently found a copy of The Minish Cap around the house that I guess I never touched and was giving that a go haha xD.
Darmani is the fastest goron in his tribe and his unpowered roll is faster than epona. Bunny hood plus inverted song of time makes him almost four times faster than normal.
He straps bombs to his face, killed gods, and wears dead people. The stone mask makes him invisible, the giant's mask makes him a skyscraper, goron mask makes him a speedster with super strength, fairy's gift means what ever damage he normally takes is halfed, the captain's hat gives him an undead army, and the OoT can basically destroys curses, evil, illness, and allows him to teleport and control the flow of time. TP can pick gorons up.
Hero's shade= OoT/MM, not hero's spirit.
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OoT Link with MM's items and feats included.
Movement speed is never going to be as important as combat speed, and the most important thing listed here is the song of time, OoT Link already knew it, he just has a crappy memory I guess.
Strapping bombs to his face is a good feat, but it's actually not one of the better showings in this list, lol. 'God' is a title, and the Links go about killing comparable or stronger beings in nearly every game. Many Links have a way to become invisible, being large is cool, and so on, but none of these things compare to having the Master Sword available.
Also, I wasn't talking about the Shade, I know that's OoT Link, the hero's spirit is the spirit of Link that reincarnates in every game, it originated with a Link that fought during [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Demise' attack on the surface world.
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The Hero's Shade was OoT Link, as NotAllThatEvil pointed out, I just mean that there's a 'spirit' in each Link that originated with the Link from before SS.
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The song of time in OoT acts like a time shift stone to move blocks, the MM song of time is a way to use the power of the goddess of time who may or may not be exclusive to termina (being a parallel universe and all that). The stone mask and magic cape are the only invisible items I recall.
He overpowered an enemy who can bring celestial objects out of orbit and smash them into things. And if bombs/bomb mask ain't enough, powder keg. A bomb so powerful that only gorons are allowed to transport it(them being able to wade through lava and all that). Also his ice arrows are much stronger than OoT's.
If you could take the hero of time with all his equipment from OoT/MM and his abilities he has as the hero's shade, you would have the link to end all links.
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Also, the Fierce Deity mask doesn't really have much in the way of feats. It makes a young Link larger and stronger, but we don't know much more. 
