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Zoro (One Piece) v.s. Wolverine (616) Sword fight
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NotAllThatEvil
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What If they both only got one sword and are at full power?

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Hm. I forgot OP had that weird timeskip in the middle.


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What If they both only got one sword and are at full power?


Zoro's style isn't what gives him the edge in these fights. It's his training, his skills and whatnot. The sword doesn't change anything.


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Is he not more skilled with 3?

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Even with just one sword(Ittoryu), Zoro has more than enough.

Phoenix of the 36 Earthly Desires/36 Pound Cannon - He shoots a ball of compressed air that hits with a huge amount of force and sends people flying.

Lion's Song - He uses Iado(the style of attacking with your sword, then quickly sheathing it after) and slices through his opponent.

Flying Dragon: Blaze - He basically slashes you, and you catch on fire from the wound.

All these are pre-timeskip

Post time skip he's got

Disaster Harbor Bird - It's basically a version of Guile's Sonic Boom or CP9's Rankyaku. It's compressed air in the shape of a crescent.

360 Pound Cannon - The 36 Pound Cannon, but 10x stronger.

Great Dragon Shock - Basically an overhead slice that would have killed a Logia if he imbued it with Haki.

These aren't all his moves, but he's equally skilled with any number of swords 1-3. It's just his techniques change depending on how many he has.

And Wolverine has failed to cut people like Hulk and a Luke Cage rip-off named Carver. He doesn't have enough strength to cut Zoro or damage his swords imo.

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The problem is that Zoro is faster and actually has the luxury of a reach greater than the length of his blades, as well as the strength to knock him about like a ragdoll.

So tell me Wei, why is it that Wolverine, when punched by Hulk, manages to not be sent to the other side of the planet?


If only I was afraid or too proud to admit when I'm wrong. I'd be rejecting everything you have to say.

With the Hulk thing, the best answer I can have without sounding like an idiot is Comic Book physics. Wolverine at best weighs 800 lbs I believe and he's grounded when he needs to be, goes flying when he needs to go flying, other then that I don't know. Same reason why Bruce didn't get cancer and die, why Cyclops didn't snap his neck on the first shot he ever made, physics are sometimes blurred in all fantasy worlds.


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Wolverine only weighs 300lbs, and he has been sent flying multiple times. Skaar punched him across the border and he landed in Canada. Gorgon kicked him from LA to Georgia(bordering Russia), and Jahf punched him into orbit. Even Bruiser/Princess Powerful sent him flying out of a church. Those are the only examples off the top of my head.

As for Cyclops, his powers don't work that way. As his eyes are only apertures to release the energy, there isn't any kickback. It's like you open a window and let the energy flow out.

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If only I was afraid or too proud to admit when I'm wrong. I'd be rejecting everything you have to say.

With the Hulk thing, the best answer I can have without sounding like an idiot is Comic Book physics. Wolverine at best weighs 800 lbs I believe and he's grounded when he needs to be, goes flying when he needs to go flying, other then that I don't know. Same reason why Bruce didn't get cancer and die, why Cyclops didn't snap his neck on the first shot he ever made, physics are sometimes blurred in all fantasy worlds.
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Cyclops' optic blasts don't have any recoil, do they? That could be explained by the weird comic book laser only producing kinetic energy when it hits something solid. Or something stupid like that.

Nevertheless, Zoro is certainly strong enough to hit Wolverine so hard he'd be embedded several miles into the ground from an overhead smash or slash, or sent flying many miles away. So, killing Wolverine is basically not happening, but Zoro has the means to defeat him.


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Wolverine only weighs 300lbs, and he has been sent flying multiple times. Skaar punched him across the border and he landed in Canada. Gorgon kicked him from LA to Georgia(bordering Russia), and Jahf punched him into orbit. Even Bruiser/Princess Powerful sent him flying out of a church. Those are the only examples off the top of my head.

As for Cyclops, his powers don't work that way. As his eyes are only apertures to release the energy, there isn't any kickback. It's like you open a window and let the energy flow out.


I'd figure the adamantium plus his natural muscles would make him weigh a lot more. I may be wrong though. I know he's been punched across great distances before, but there are also instances when he's stayed grounded or only moved a few feet.

Don't really care to argue if real world physics would make Cyclops snap his neck or not since this thread isn't about that, but it's obvious that physics are sometimes stretched in the comic universes.


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I'd figure the adamantium plus his natural muscles would make him weigh a lot more. I may be wrong though. I know he's been punched across great distances before, but there are also instances when he's stayed grounded or only moved a few feet.

Don't really care to argue if real world physics would make Cyclops snap his neck or not since this thread isn't about that, but it's obvious that physics are sometimes stretched in the comic universes.


Well you gotta realize he was born in the 1800's I believe. So people were a lot smaller back then, and didn't weigh as much. And the Adamantium lacing his skeleton isn't all that heavy. And yeah, comics physics are crazy sometimes, but Logan has been launched enough times that if anyone can do it, Zoro can.

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Abraham Lincoln was born in the 1800s, and he was over 6" .

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Lincoln was 6'4, which was extremely tall and extremely rare for the time; that's why people made such a big deal out of his height. Logan's height of like 5'4 on the other hand wasn't out of the ordinary for the time.

Whereas today it's the opposite, 5'3 is nearly short enough to be called a midget, whereas 6'4 is close to the national average.

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Well you gotta realize he was born in the 1800's I believe. So people were a lot smaller back then, and didn't weigh as much. And the Adamantium lacing his skeleton isn't all that heavy. And yeah, comics physics are crazy sometimes, but Logan has been launched enough times that if anyone can do it, Zoro can.


I see the problem/confusion I was making with the skeleton and his weight.

I said Zoro wouldn't be knocking him around or he had insufficient strength?


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No. I was replying to the comment last page about comic physics. When someone asked why Hulk hadn't punched Wolverine around. And was saying that in a forum fight, Zoro has the strength to knock him around if anybody does.

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And Wolverine has failed to cut people like Hulk and a Luke Cage rip-off named Carver. He doesn't have enough strength to cut Zoro or damage his swords imo.


Now this part is just untrue, Wolverine has no problem piercing Hulk. He pierced IG Thanos. Unless Zoro's swords are made out of some special metal then I think he could easily slice through them if he had the chance. Also I believe he'd have no trouble piercing or cutting Zoro if Zoro just stood there and asked for it.


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Adamantium doesn't follow the normal rules for cutting things. Usually just being super durable doesn't equate to supar cutting ability, but adamantium don't care.


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Now this part is just untrue, Wolverine has no problem piercing Hulk. He pierced IG Thanos. Unless Zoro's swords are made out of some special metal then I think he could easily slice through them if he had the chance. Also I believe he'd have no trouble piercing or cutting Zoro if Zoro just stood there and asked for it.


There've been several times when he couldn't cut Hulk. World War Hulk is one example. And when he tried to cut Thor, it took several swipes to break the skin and make him bleed a little while striking at his face. He's also failed to cut Colossus and do more than scour the surface of his skin. Etc... Etc...

Adamantium can cut through pretty much anything, but you need the strength to go along with it. Logan isn't all that strong, so if someones durability is beyond his ability to use his strength in conjunction with the claws, he won't be able to cut them. And considering a major attack from Mihawk left Zoro with nothing but a scar, Logan doing any last damage is unlikely. Also considering Zoro's massive pain threshold, durability, and stamina, it wouldn't really matter even if Logan did get a good hit on him. He'd still go on to win the fight.

As for his swords, Wado Ichimonji(White One), and Shusui(black and red blade) are 21 O Wazamono swords. Which are one step down from the 12 Saijo O Wazamono swords. And the 12 are the most powerful blades in existence. Mihawk Yoru is one of the 12. So at least 2 of Zoro's swords are incredibly powerful and probably beyond Logan's ability to cut considering what they've gone up against. Sandai Kitetsu is the one that would break if any of them were to.

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There've been several times when he couldn't cut Hulk. World War Hulk is one example. And when he tried to cut Thor, it took several swipes to break the skin and make him bleed a little while striking at his face. He's also failed to cut Colossus and do more than scour the surface of his skin. Etc... Etc...

Adamantium can cut through pretty much anything, but you need the strength to go along with it. Logan isn't all that strong, so if someones durability is beyond his ability to use his strength in conjunction with the claws, he won't be able to cut them. And considering a major attack from Mihawk left Zoro with nothing but a scar, Logan doing any last damage is unlikely. Also considering Zoro's massive pain threshold, durability, and stamina, it wouldn't really matter even if Logan did get a good hit on him. He'd still go on to win the fight.

As for his swords, Wado Ichimonji(White One), and Shusui(black and red blade) are 21 O Wazamono swords. Which are one step down from the 12 Saijo O Wazamono swords. And the 12 are the most powerful blades in existence. Mihawk Yoru is one of the 12. So at least 2 of Zoro's swords are incredibly powerful and probably beyond Logan's ability to cut considering what they've gone up against. Sandai Kitetsu is the one that would break if any of them were to.


He said that his skin was harder to cut, not that he couldn't. In that same fight he took his eyes. I only remember it taking one swipe to cut and make Thor's arm bleed in that future fight.

In their most recent scuffle I do believe that Wolverine did cut through Colossus steel form, that being said Colossus is leagues more durable than Zoro. WWH was the only version of Hulk that was harder to cut.

Major attack from Mihawk? Do you mean from their first fight and Dracule spared him and told him to get stronger and challenge him in the future. I believe Zoro would've died if Dracule wanted to kill him.


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He said that his skin was harder to cut, not that he couldn't. In that same fight he took his eyes. I only remember it taking one swipe to cut and make Thor's arm bleed in that future fight.

In their most recent scuffle I do believe that Wolverine did cut through Colossus steel form, that being said Colossus is leagues more durable than Zoro. WWH was the only version of Hulk that was harder to cut.

Major attack from Mihawk? Do you mean from their first fight and Dracule spared him and told him to get stronger and challenge him in the future. I believe Zoro would've died if Dracule wanted to kill him.


He slashed at him several times to no avail. And his eyes are obviously not as durable as his skin. That was Rune King Thor, but this was a more recent fight against a less powerful Thor, and Logan clawed the hell out of his face, but only managed a few scratches that bled a little.

And in the most recent fight between Wolverine and Colossus, Wolverine was amped a great amount by a demon possessing his body. Even his strength was amped considering Colossus threw him through the roof and hundreds of feet away, and in a few seconds, he jumped back through the hole in the roof, which was nowhere near ground level.

And yes, that attack from Mihawk, even holding back would have killed a lot of people, and severely damaged Wolverine. There's also the time he took on Luffy's pain on top of his own and tanked it. His fight with Mr. 1, etc, etc, etc. He takes more than what Wolverine can dish out on a regular basis.

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I'm sorry but it sounds like you're saying is that Zoro is more durable than Hulk and Thor.

More than Thor's face bled from that fight. Wolverine has always had a super jump and he's always had a little more strength than shown.

So a mercy slash from Mihawk would severely hurt Wolverine? Wolverine would've been hurt no doubt, but he's not going to be knocked out, winded or afraid to get back up. Luffy's pain was a different source, that's not piercing durability to my knowledge.


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