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Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda
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Concession accepted.

You need to show Khan has TP resistance. If you can't show that or prove it, then Yoda easily wins. Prove Khan can resist TP then. If not, I accept your concession

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Concession accepted.

You need to show Khan has TP resistance. If you can't show that or prove it, then Yoda easily wins. Prove Khan can resist TP then. If not, I accept your concession
The droids didn't need tp. Yoda admitted he'd need aid against shitty droids. Khan wins. With ease as the evidence shows.


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So you have no evidence that he can resist TP then? I accept your concession that Khan losses.

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So you have no evidence that he can resist TP then? I accept your concession that Khan losses.
You would have to first prove he reacts first with tp with evidence. You need to back your claims. Yoda needed aid against shitty droids. Khan destroys him. He also needed aid against clones. laughing out loud


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KT stop making so much sense. The Troll didn't bump this thread for sensible arguments. He bumped it because he couldn't stand how badly he's been beaten so wanted to just keep the debate alive via trolling.

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KT stop making so much sense. The Troll didn't bump this thread for sensible arguments. He bumped it because he couldn't stand how badly he's been beaten so wanted to just keep the debate alive via trolling.
What you just did was trolling. You didn't provide any evidence but instead backed another posters baseless claims.


Here's evidence.


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You also seem to be ignoring Kenobi who is in the same shot killing the other clones as well. Bringing a formidable Jedi to the temple to help destroy clones isn't to be ignored.

24-26 Know the time to help me you will.Yoda admits he will need aid against the droids.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5-fkESkmvu0


1:46-1:50 We see a droid say we have him in our sights. The droid took four seconds to react and by that time Yoda was gone. Four seconds in which to take him out. Khan takes this muppet out. Evidence. Boom.

2:46-2:50
The general is too busy with that tank he won't see them coming.

Yoda needs aid in both situations. Khan wields a powerful cannon the likes of which Yoda doesn't deflect in either scene with his lightsaber. I've also supplied evidence of him being taken by surprise because the droids were too much minus the help. Khan eradicates 20 plus Klingons and multiple ships while subduing Spock, Uhura, and Kirk with relative ease.

Khan wins.


Quit hiding from me and behind other men. Debate or else leave Khan's thread.


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You also seem to be ignoring Kenobi who is in the same shot killing the other clones as well. Bringing a formidable Jedi to the temple to help destroy clones isn't to be ignored.

24-26 Know the time to help me you will.Yoda admits he will need aid against the droids.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5-fkESkmvu0


1:46-1:50 We see a droid say we have him in our sights. The droid took four seconds to react and by that time Yoda was gone. Four seconds in which to take him out. Khan takes this muppet out. Evidence. Boom.

2:46-2:50
The general is too busy with that tank he won't see them coming.

Yoda needs aid in both situations. Khan wields a powerful cannon the likes of which Yoda doesn't deflect in either scene with his lightsaber. I've also supplied evidence of him being taken by surprise because the droids were too much minus the help. Khan eradicates 20 plus Klingons and multiple ships while subduing Spock, Uhura, and Kirk with relative ease.

Khan wins.


*yawn*

Besides totally not having a counter for my points (as expected), the only thing you try to introduce to the table is entirely irrelevant, due to the rules you made for this thread yourself. Remember the OP of this thread?

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This is Khan Noonien Singh from Star Trek: Into Darkness vs. Yoda from the live action films only. Yoda has had enough. Khan has been ruthlessly slaughtering jedis with greater precision than Order 66. The fight takes place in the Senate Pod room. Can the most powerful Jedi survive ?


Emphasis mine.
I take that "Yoda from live action films only" means that no evidence from TCW is allowed. If it is, he just freezes Khan with the Force, disarms him and has a good laugh.

So. You can actually choose how to lose this debate, Quanchimon. Either you don't embarass yourself further by attempting to modify the rules of the debate within the debate. In which case Khan loses against live action Yoda. Or you want to change the rules, embarassing yourself twice, because you would just show the readers that you can't even win if you try to cheat.

And special applause for your inability to embed Youtube videos in your postings. thumb up


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*yawn*

Besides totally not having a counter for my points (as expected), the only thing you try to introduce to the table is entirely irrelevant, due to the rules you made for this thread yourself. Remember the OP of this thread?



Emphasis mine.
I take that "Yoda from live action films only" means that no evidence from TCW is allowed. If it is, he just freezes Khan with the Force, disarms him and has a good laugh.

So. You can actually choose how to lose this debate, Quanchimon. Either you don't embarass yourself further by attempting to modify the rules of the debate within the debate. In which case Khan loses against live action Yoda. Or you want to change the rules, embarassing yourself twice, because you would just show the readers that you can't even win if you try to cheat.

And special applause for your inability to embed Youtube videos in your postings. thumb up
That is fine and dandy but it's still canon. Emphasis:Canon.

But let's see some movie evidence.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z98llqq5LYU

44-1:19 seconds we see Yoda is unable to defend himself while Palpatine slowly walks without attacking or pressing his advantage. Yoda then after around 35 seconds later has the strength to recover and he force pushes a completely defenseless Palpatine.

Yoda didn't freeze any droids or clones with the force and had aid for both. He admitted he needed aid against droids.

Sidious ko'd him with a two second plus attack he warned him about.



laughing out loud

Canon or live action films only Yoda loses. I can also post Dooku feats while Yoda stands by watching him take multiple seconds to tk shit. laughing out loud

Khan kills him with one shot from the phaser canon.


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That is fine and dandy but it's still canon. Emphasis:Canon.

But let's see some movie evidence.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z98llqq5LYU

44-1:19 seconds we see Yoda is unable to defend himself while Palpatine slowly walks without attacking or pressing his advantage. Yoda then after around 35 seconds later has the strength to recover and he force pushes a completely defenseless Palpatine.

Yoda didn't freeze any droids or clones with the force and had aid for both. He admitted he needed aid against droids.

Sidious ko'd him with a two second plus attack he warned him about.



laughing out loud

Canon or live action films only Yoda loses. I can also post Dooku feats while Yoda stands by watching him take multiple seconds to tk shit. laughing out loud

Khan kills him with one shot from the phaser canon.


So desperate, Quanchimon?



0:56 - 0:58
Khan can't even hit a guy standing right in front of him. Gets a fist to the face. Khan sucks.

1:07 - 1:13
Khan is so slow that Spock can easily utilize the Vulcan Neck Pinch against him. Khan moans like the little girl he is. Pathetic.

3:06 - 3:08
Khan is so damn slow, that he is entirely incapable of reacting to Uhura, when she materializes behind him, despite seeing her. Weak.

3:09 - 3:40
Khan getting his ass kicked, because he's neither capable of dodging energy weapon bolts (read: he's far slower than Yoda) nor defending himself against blows. Laughable.

Khan gets his ass handed to him and there is nothing you can do about it, Khanchi. Accept defeat, move on.


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So desperate, Quanchimon?



0:56 - 0:58
Khan can't even hit a guy standing right in front of him. Gets a fist to the face. Khan sucks.

1:07 - 1:13
Khan is so slow that Spock can easily utilize the Vulcan Neck Pinch against him. Khan moans like the little girl he is. Pathetic.

3:06 - 3:08
Khan is so damn slow, that he is entirely incapable of reacting to Uhura, when she materializes behind him, despite seeing her. Weak.

3:09 - 3:40
Khan getting his ass kicked, because he's neither capable of dodging energy weapon bolts (read: he's far slower than Yoda) nor defending himself against blows. Laughable.

Khan gets his ass handed to him and there is nothing you can do about it, Khanchi. Accept defeat, move on.
Khan was not armed in that scene. Spock was. Khan just crash landed. Spock was aided by the enterprise. Khan still was defeating Spock. laughing out loud


Yoda was armed. Yoda needed aid pre fight according to him. Yoda was armed against Palpatine. He went there to fight him. He lost. What I have posted is relevant to this fight as Yoda was armed and knew he was going into combat. Khan doesn't need to dodge energy bolts as he is one shooting.

Khan had Spock and Uhura at his mercy while armed. Relevant information.


Khan wins despite your blatant trolling.


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Yoda was armed. Yoda needed aid pre fight according to him.


Against an army, including several tanks and several dozens of opponents. And he still took most of them out on his own - with apparent ease. Also note that we don't know whether or not he really needed help. Just the Clones think he did.

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Yoda was armed against Palpatine. He went there to fight him. He lost. What I have posted is relevant to this fight as Yoda was armed and knew he was going into combat.


How is any of what you posted relevant to this fight?
Khan does neither pack as much firepower as an entire droid army, nor is he a Force user on par with Yoda's own abilities, like Sidious. So where was your point again? Oh yes. Hilarious attempt to talk down a character. thumb up

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Khan doesn't need to dodge energy bolts as he is one shooting.


And not hitting anything with it, demonstrated by on screen feats for Yoda. So?

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Khan wins despite your blatant trolling.


Who is trolling here, Quanchimon?
If you don't bring anything to the table besides your cheap attempts to talk down characters, you can just shut up.


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If you don't bring anything to the table besides your cheap attempts to talk down characters, you can just shut up.



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Against an army, including several tanks and several dozens of opponents. And he still took most of them out on his own - with apparent ease. Also note that we don't know whether or not he really needed help. Just the Clones think he did.



How is any of what you posted relevant to this fight?
Khan does neither pack as much firepower as an entire droid army, nor is he a Force user on par with Yoda's own abilities, like Sidious. So where was your point again? Oh yes. Hilarious attempt to talk down a character. thumb up



And not hitting anything with it, demonstrated by on screen feats for Yoda. So?



Who is trolling here, Quanchimon?
If you don't bring anything to the table besides your cheap attempts to talk down characters, you can just shut up.
Against a squadron of droids. He needed help. Yoda didn't solo any armies, sport. He was in their scope for 3 seconds. The droids are quite inept. Lucky for him he had clones who later bailed him out as they said Yoda didn't see it coming despite his precognition. Khan had no allies against Klingons, multiple ships, etc. khan did so easily on his own according to Kirk. Happy Dance

Khan packs more firepower than the droids of that scene and greater skill. He takes down ships and leaves bodies in stumps. The droids are humiliated by Jar Jar stumbling around.

Sidious still forewarned an attack and took multiple seconds to execute it. Yoda was unable to stop it. His abilities don't erase the real time and the feat itself. We go by facts not hyperbole. Stick to the facts, German troll.

Yoda was hit by Palpatine and needed aid by clones because as they said he wouldn't see it coming. Shitty battle awareness. If you doubt it look at Sidious warning him and Yoda failing to stop a two second plus attack. laughing out loud

I cite facts you don't. Khan wins. Just give in like you always do you submissive male.


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So you have no evidence that he can resist TP then? I accept your concession that Khan losses.

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You need evidence to back your claim. You continue to make baseless claims while I provide factual evidence.


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You need evidence to back your claim. You continue to make baseless claims while I provide factual evidence.


I have evidence... Jedi have been shown to make people do things against their will or intent. This is an unquestionable fact. Now prove Khan has TP resistance

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I have evidence... Jedi have been shown to make people do things against their will or intent. This is an unquestionable fact. Now prove Khan has TP resistance
And also fail against other people. When do we see Jedi in combat as in Yoda force his foes to stop fighting him.

Even people without tp resistance have released them and Yoda has never done what you claimed. You're a fanboy.


Khan guns him down.


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And also fail against other people. When do we see Jedi in combat as in Yoda force his foes to stop fighting him.

Even people without tp resistance have released them and Yoda has never done what you claimed. You're a fanboy.


Khan guns him down.


Yes people have resisted, people with TP resistance.. ya know.. hence them resisting it. Now prove Khan has TP resistance

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Yes people have resisted, people with TP resistance.. ya know.. hence them resisting it. Now prove Khan has TP resistance
No, they just can resist weak Jedi mind tricks. Do you think they can resist Xavier ? FFS.


Give me an example of Yoda using tp in battle. Do you even watch Star Wars, Abe ?


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Yeah nobody in the prequels ever using any kind of telepathic attack. They use it to sense shit and..I guess block people from sensing them?

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He doesn't lose to Yoda. Khan's gun phasers pack more of a whallop and his showings support my claims. Yoda fails again. If it's one thing he did consistently was fail.


Whereas with Khan it was just one success after another..oh wait.

Just to be clear, if neither of these people were given any weapons and were then told to fight, what do you feel happens? Just trying to see if you basically only think Khan has a shot due to having a big fancy gun as opposed to Khan on his little lonesome just being that good(he isn't).


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