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Should Superman Kill?
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Yes! Kill them and torture them!!! 1 5.00%
No! Superman should NEVER, EVER KILL, no matter what! 3 15.00%
Yes, but only as the last resort 16 80.00%
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Should Superman Kill?
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quanchi112
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Originally posted by Endless Mike
Actually in the Golden Age he killed people like every issue. He was practically the Punisher with superpowers.
Do you believe that's the essential spirit of what you view as Superman's character ?


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Too many people haven't paid attention to Superman since Chris Reeve was around, it seems.

**** sake.


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Originally posted by roughrider
His policy should be just like Captain America's - not the first club out of the bag, show respect for the law and setting an example, but if you're out of options, don't risk the lives of others and do what's necessary.

Interestingly, Cap keeps to this stance even though he's sanctioned in some form by the U.S. Government; they would back him up. And when he's not working with the Avengers he's working with SHIELD agents, who all have licenses to kill. But he doesn't judge them. Just as Superman shouldn't judge or freeze out any friend of his, who uses lethal force to save his life and the lives of others (Cough *Wonder Woman* Cough.) wink


You just reminded me Cap in his own movie was going around shooting people. I don't remember a big outcry over that, unless I completely missed it.

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There was none. Cap was a soldier in WW2. Him not shooting anyone would have been out of place, tbh.


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Superman or any MAN for that matter should kill and completely justified if it is in order to protect his family and loved ones.

This is what WE DO and I won't hold him on a higher standard than myself as I will do the same if in the same situation.

And kudos to those guys mentioning the golden era and silver age situations in which He killed.


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If Superman does not kill then I will boycott stick out tongue

seriously though Kal had no choice but to kill Zod, not saying he will kill again in Man of Steel 2 or in Justice League but I have to believe that if given similar circumstances he will kill...


also Superman killing is the antithesis of Batman not killing


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zod had it coming, really.. he was blood-lusted and bat-sh!t crazy at that point.. what was kal-el supposed to do? cover his eyes? fly him off to space? bring him to a desert? then what? zod was never gonna stop anyway.. superman's hand was pushed, he did what he had to and it was justified.. JUSTIFIED..


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Can Superman Kill yeah but I do agree due to the nature of the character it should always be a last choice and high impact moment.

Something I think MoS portrayed quite well myself.


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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Superman or any MAN for that matter should kill and completely justified if it is in order to protect his family and loved ones.

This is what WE DO and I won't hold him on a higher standard than myself as I will do the same if in the same situation.

And kudos to those guys mentioning the golden era and silver age situations in which He killed.
Superman shouldn't be placed in this situation IMO.


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He shouldn't kill unless he has to and there's no other choice.


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Superman shouldn't be placed in this situation IMO.


And that's why he's so bland and a hypocrite most of the times. Most writers takes the safe route with Kal instead of pushing his limits.

Don't get me wrong now, Superman is my all time favorite superhero, but most writers can't write him for shit, and 90% of the time he comes off as an hypocrite.

Best example, Superman killed Doomsday because there was no other way to stop him, trapped Darkseid in the Source Wall because there was no other way, yet he has the balls to question Diana and be mad at her after what Lord did to him and Sacrifice.

Most writers ***** and say Kal shouldn't kill, it's like they never picked an original or Golden Age book Superman.

Superman killing should be a last line of defense after he's exhausted all other possibilities. So no i don't Superman killing would be a bad thing. Now if he goes Punisher on out ass in every book, then there's a problem.

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To be fair, I don't think those situations are necessarily the same thing.


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Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you believe that's the essential spirit of what you view as Superman's character ?


No but that's the way he used to be.


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It's hilarious how so many people are hung up on Supes killing a megalomaniacal genocidal warlord who was pretty much dedicated to wiping the entire population of Earth from existence from a perceived slight against him.

But are also mad about the death toll, when there wouldn't have been anyone left to even make a death toll if he'd lost.

It was an unwinnable situation, but he made the right choice.

Haters be damned.

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It's hilarious how so many people are hung up on Supes killing a megalomaniacal genocidal warlord who was pretty much dedicated to wiping the entire population of Earth from existence from a perceived slight against him.

But are also mad about the death toll, when there wouldn't have been anyone left to even make a death toll if he'd lost.

It was an unwinnable situation, but he made the right choice.

Haters be damned.


second best post in here ..

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Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
If Superman does not kill then I will boycott stick out tongue

seriously though Kal had no choice but to kill Zod, not saying he will kill again in Man of Steel 2 or in Justice League but I have to believe that if given similar circumstances he will kill...


also Superman killing is the antithesis of Batman not killing


best post in here.. big grin stick out tongue


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Originally posted by Zack Fair
I do not agree with death penalty. i think he should not kill.

Having said that I have no problem with him killing if no other option is available to him. I don't like him or Batman being hypocrites who will put people in jail only for them to break free and keep killing and torturing innocent civilians.


Ok let me get this straight:

You don't agree with death penalty...
No problem killing if no other option...
Bats and Sups are hypocrites for having criminals thrown in jail...

so instead of death penalty, well let them sit in jail at tax payers expense forever or let them out to kill again?

Kill if no other option....but you just stated that you were against death penalty (oxymoron).

Bats and Sups are Hypocrits for throwing killers in jail.....well you dont want them dead so what else are you going to do with them Sir? let them run a daycare center? you must be a Republican.

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Ok let me get this straight:

You don't agree with death penalty...
No problem killing if no other option...
Bats and Sups are hypocrites for having criminals thrown in jail...

so instead of death penalty, well let them sit in jail at tax payers expense forever or let them out to kill again?

Kill if no other option....but you just stated that you were against death penalty (oxymoron).

Bats and Sups are Hypocrits for throwing killers in jail.....well you dont want them dead so what else are you going to do with them Sir? let them run a daycare center? you must be a Republican.


I'm going to take a guess that him not agreeing with the death penalty is separate from having to kill in self-defense or the defense of others if you're in that type of situation.

And republicans tend to be for the death penalty. But looking at who posted this, I'm not surprised.


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This thread is (good way/bad way) hilarious.
For all intents Supes is in law enforcement. Would you expect to read a story where a policeman has a moral code code against killing? A believable one anyway?
Supes' powers dont give him an automatic no kill clause. He has to decide whats best in each situation.


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