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Shang Chi vs Lady Shiva
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Dareangel
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Shang Chi

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A decent argument can be made for either.

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yeah, Shiva. EASILY. Shang is sub Batman level.

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Shang Chi.

I’ve also noted that I’ve not seen one person clearly state how Shiva could win. For Shang Chi, there’s a scan showing him making a Karate Kid-lite move. Anything similar for Shiva, or is it just conjecture?


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Other than Shiva completely owning Batman (League of Shadows arc)? Batman is in god tier when it comes to MA.

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Shang

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Shiva also fought the Gotham Knights by herself, including Cassandra Cain and Azrael.

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i'm the biggest DC fan on these boards but I'm also honest. Shang destroys her


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QUANCHI112:In between the passes Khan will tear out the orca teeth and use them as an offensive weapon. Khan has crushed a skull before so tearing a tooth off a whale should be no issue.

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Shang takes this rather solidly.


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How?


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How?


with his furious yellow fists


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QUANCHI112:In between the passes Khan will tear out the orca teeth and use them as an offensive weapon. Khan has crushed a skull before so tearing a tooth off a whale should be no issue.

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Shang takes this rather solidly.


Doubtful.

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Doubtful.


DC is pretty hax huh?


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QUANCHI112:In between the passes Khan will tear out the orca teeth and use them as an offensive weapon. Khan has crushed a skull before so tearing a tooth off a whale should be no issue.

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I would have given Shang the sleight edge, but after League of Shadows are, Shiva reclaimed her top spot by actual feats.

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I would have given Shang the sleight edge, but after League of Shadows are, Shiva reclaimed her top spot by actual feats.


Would you mind sharing those Zack? I ask because - and don’t get me wrong - while I think that Lady Shiva is at the very top of human martial artists (together with the likes of the original Richard Dragon) , and has skill levels that are absolutely superlative, that Shang Chi is something beyond human. There was a time Shang Chi was a male Marvel version of Shiva (or, better yet, Marvel’s Richard Dragon), but recently I’ve seen him doing things that make him a weak version of Karate Kid. Or, put in a different way, he is Iron Fist without the glowing hands.

The way I see it, in the same way DC enhances its better-than-meta characters. As an example, everyone higher than meta in DC seems to have a combo of strength, speed, other ...even Aquaman has high level strength, can move at super speed, can jump over tall buildings, has access to magic, is a great fighter, can control sea life, and has high level telepathy ...with him being a joke largely because he is in a team with characters that can do all of those things better (strength -SM, and virtually everyone but BM; fighting skill WW and BM; speed everyone but Bm, telepathy MM, magic Zatanna, you get the drift)

In the same way DC does that to its ‘higher-than-meta’ characters, Marvel does that to its martial artists. All of them - from Black Cat to Electra to Daredevil to T’challa to Steve Rogers to Danny Rand to Shang Chi ...every martial artist better than Black Widow has some sort of powers.

I’d love to see how Shiva can beat Shang Chi, but I just don’t see it.

Shang Chi would give Lady Shiva her beautiful death. I see him as a more skilled Iron Fist without glowing fists (and the ability to punch trains).


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Bruce would slap Shang around quite easily, so anyone who could give him difficulty would be too much for Shang

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Would you mind sharing those Zack? I ask because - and don’t get me wrong - while I think that Lady Shiva is at the very top of human martial artists (together with the likes of the original Richard Dragon) , and has skill levels that are absolutely superlative, that Shang Chi is something beyond human. There was a time Shang Chi was a male Marvel version of Shiva (or, better yet, Marvel’s Richard Dragon), but recently I’ve seen him doing things that make him a weak version of Karate Kid. Or, put in a different way, he is Iron Fist without the glowing hands.

The way I see it, in the same way DC enhances its better-than-meta characters. As an example, everyone higher than meta in DC seems to have a combo of strength, speed, other ...even Aquaman has high level strength, can move at super speed, can jump over tall buildings, has access to magic, is a great fighter, can control sea life, and has high level telepathy ...with him being a joke largely because he is in a team with characters that can do all of those things better (strength -SM, and virtually everyone but BM; fighting skill WW and BM; speed everyone but Bm, telepathy MM, magic Zatanna, you get the drift)

In the same way DC does that to its ‘higher-than-meta’ characters, Marvel does that to its martial artists. All of them - from Black Cat to Electra to Daredevil to T’challa to Steve Rogers to Danny Rand to Shang Chi ...every martial artist better than Black Widow has some sort of powers.

I’d love to see how Shiva can beat Shang Chi, but I just don’t see it.

Shang Chi would give Lady Shiva her beautiful death. I see him as a more skilled Iron Fist without glowing fists (and the ability to punch trains).


DC does this with their Martial Artists as well. Look at Karate Kid, Batman, Shiva, Azrael, Jason (and his teachers, the All Caste), Cassandra, etc...

I don't see Shang beating someone who took on the entire Gotham Knights (Including Clayface) at once.

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I forgot to add Ra's Al Ghul to that list. In League of Shadows arc, it was revealed that he knew backwards magic (think Zatanna).

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Originally posted by Zack M
DC does this with their Martial Artists as well. Look at Karate Kid, Batman, Shiva, Azrael, Jason (and his teachers, the All Caste), Cassandra, etc...

I don't see Shang beating someone who took on the entire Gotham Knights (Including Clayface) at once.
you still haven't posted the scans of this.


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Here are other martial artists with powers:

Judomaster (Can't be hit and here is her explanation)

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Original Judomaster. Got out of unbreakable chains by controlling her every molecule and phasing.

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Sa'ar the Ageless (Easily owned Shiva and Martian Manhunter)

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Sensei (has Chi powers)

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