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BloodRain
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I see galactic fear to be a greater feat.


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I see galactic fear to be a greater feat.
Thats just greater in scope. People Didnt seem to have the same general fear of him like they did with someone like Voldemort or Sauron.


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Palpatine was too distant a threat to be feared as much. He left you alone for the most part if you paid your taxes and did not question his rule. Also, by the time of the Original Trilogy, belief in the Force was at an all-time low, so the frail-looking old man was seen as just that. A weak old man.

Ganondorf doesn't get top billing because honestly, most people don't actually know who the **** he is. Those that do are afraid of him, but TP Ganondorf was basically an unknown. Zant was more feared.

Thulsa Doom I can't say.

It is between Sauron and Voldemort. From here it becomes very difficult to quantify. Voldemort tends to have fanciful shit like people being so scared they don't even say his name, but Sauron? Even legitimate Demigods like Gandalf, Radhagast, Saruman, or Galadriel quiver at the thought of Sauron returning, as seen in the Hobbit.

It depends on which you find more impressive.


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Interesting thread.. It's between Voldemort and Sauron as everyone seems to agree on. I think Hagrid said in the first film that the wizarding world believed Vold's name to be cursed(even tho it really wasn't until DH) so that would explain them fearing it. In that world you can curse a word and it seemed likely he would do so i guess.


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What does the word demigod do for anyone ? It is just a title and by power alone a competent HP wizard shits all over these demi gods in terms of power.


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Palpatine was too distant a threat to be feared as much. He left you alone for the most part if you paid your taxes and did not question his rule. Also, by the time of the Original Trilogy, belief in the Force was at an all-time low, so the frail-looking old man was seen as just that. A weak old man.

Ganondorf doesn't get top billing because honestly, most people don't actually know who the **** he is. Those that do are afraid of him, but TP Ganondorf was basically an unknown. Zant was more feared.

Thulsa Doom I can't say.

It is between Sauron and Voldemort. From here it becomes very difficult to quantify. Voldemort tends to have fanciful shit like people being so scared they don't even say his name, but Sauron? Even legitimate Demigods like Gandalf, Radhagast, Saruman, or Galadriel quiver at the thought of Sauron returning, as seen in the Hobbit.

It depends on which you find more impressive.


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So you're endorsing the usage of the word demi god like it carries weight of some kind ?


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Yes.


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Yes.
It is just a title a dnnothing more. We need proof or evidence to add "real" weight.


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im more scared of vader than i am Palpatine

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Thats just greater in scope. People Didnt seem to have the same general fear of him like they did with someone like Voldemort or Sauron.

Been a while since watching, just pictured him as the powerful Sith lord, figured the fear would be obvious. With what everyones said I'd put him back to third on the list.


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im more scared of vader than i am Palpatine
That is an interesting point. Vader due to being his enforcer probably was more feared than Palpatine.


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Palpatine had an extensive cult of personality and was beloved as a patron of the arts. Tarkin and Vader were the feared ones.


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Been a while since watching, just pictured him as the powerful Sith lord, figured the fear would be obvious. With what everyones said I'd put him back to third on the list.
But there was not a. General seams of fear attached to his name. As just stated it seemed Vader was more feared. Palpatine was the cunning politician who was too smart to let the general public know what a evil bastard he was. I put Palpatine in there to see who would bite.


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Makes sense.

Shoulda replaced them with Vader and Zant.


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When was this stated in the films ?


I really don't know. I haven't read the books or saw the movies, but I know that Voldemort had literally cursed his name. That may not have been stated in the movies though.


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Makes sense.

Shoulda replaced them with Vader and Zant.
Do you think either of these two rival Voldemort or Sauron here ?


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I really don't know. I haven't read the books or saw the movies, but I know that Voldemort had literally cursed his name. That may not have been stated in the movies though.
Its clear in Deathly Hallows part two they are just fearful of saying his name.


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Vader more so than Zant

His name was cursed in DH1. That's how the Death Eaters found Harry and company after the wedding


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Do you think either of these two rival Voldemort or Sauron here ?

Vader could possibly contend with those two. Zant, while being the Vader to Dorfs Palpatine, is still not well known. Only his people and a few in Hyrule castle knew about him, as everyone else was just soul ****ed without knowing of him. Sure those that did greatly feared him, but great fear among a hundred people is below great fear among thousands.


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