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What does the word demigod do for anyone ? It is just a title and by power alone a competent HP wizard shits all over these demi gods in terms of power.

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This has nothing to do with overall formidability.

Follow your own rules.

In LotR, said demigods are more powerful than the majority of LotR beings, like Men and the majority of Elves, who at best can hover just a little bit above peak human in formidability.

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Follow your own rules.

In LotR, said demigods are more powerful than the majority of LotR beings, like Men and the majority of Elves, who at best can hover just a little bit above peak human in formidability.

Yes, but that doesn't extend over into Harry Pottwr verse. We see wizards are more powerful than their demi gods.

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Vader more so than Zant

His name was cursed in DH1. That's how the Death Eaters found Harry and company after the wedding

I just meant in terms of the name being afraid to be spoken despite Voldemort coming for everyone at Hogwarts.

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Vader could possibly contend with those two. Zant, while being the Vader to Dorfs Palpatine, is still not well known. Only his people and a few in Hyrule castle knew about him, as everyone else was just soul ****ed without knowing of him. Sure those that did greatly feared him, but great fear among a hundred people is below great fear among thousands.

Ok, if Vader is among them give me your top three.

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Yes, but that doesn't extend over into Harry Pottwr verse. We see wizards are more powerful than their demi gods.

What are you even talking about?

Do you even know?

Is English your first language?

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What are you even talking about?

Do you even know?

Is English your first language?

That the word demi god doesn't define power especially when comparing it to another fictional universe.

It's like saying Ares the marvel god of war is more powerful than Superman since Hes just an alien.

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You made this thread with the caveat that personal power is not to factor into decisions, and stipulated that we are going by who is more feared in their "native" universe.

I wasn't comparing how the demigods would compare to Harry Potter because your OP outright dictated that I shouldn't, how they stack up to Harry Potter doesn't mean a goddamn thing, because we are going by who is more feared in their own universe, not who would be most feared in each other's universe.

Keep the **** up. You made the thread, you should not know less about its point than I do.

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You made this thread with the caveat that personal power is not to factor into decisions, and stipulated that we are going by who is more feared in their "native" universe.

I wasn't comparing how the demigods would compare to Harry Potter because your OP outright dictated that I shouldn't, how they stack up to Harry Potter doesn't mean a goddamn thing, because we are going by who is more feared in their own universe, not who would be most feared in each other's universe.

Keep the **** up. You made the thread, you should not know less about its point than I do.

Even in their own universe we see a human capable of defeating Sauron despite your demi gods quaking in fear. What made Sauron such a prick to deal with was the power the ring had over this duped world. People weren't afraid to say Sauron's name in the same vein as Voldemort's.

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Even in their own universe we see a human capable of defeating Sauron despite your demi gods quaking in fear.

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This has nothing to do with overall formidability.

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We see a human overcoming fear to take him on. We see the Minister of Magic shit his pants at the sight of Lord Voldemort.

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Ok, if Vader is among them give me your top three.

Like with Palpy I'm unsure if the fear of Vader matches his reach. Iirc even his followers routinely feared him.

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We see a human overcoming fear to take him on. We see the Minister of Magic shit his pants at the sight of Lord Voldemort.

Fudge was an utter tool though. So who cares? Harry openly mocks Voldemort half a dozen times throught the series. Meanwhile Frodo was crapping his pants about being seen by Sauron.

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Like with Palpy I'm unsure if the fear of Vader matches his reach. Iirc even his followers routinely feared him.

You did not give me your top three.

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Fudge was an utter tool though. So who cares? Harry openly mocks Voldemort half a dozen times throught the series. Meanwhile Frodo was crapping his pants about being seen by Sauron.

Harry towards the end did so but was still terrified of him despite all this. He also knew the Elder Wand did not answer to Voldemort. Yes, if he was seen by Sauron he was screwed as his henchment would converge on him.

Fudge wielded much power and was not scared of confronting Albus.

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You did not give me your top three.

I said Sauron and Voldermort were at the top, then said Vader would likely hang with them.. so..

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I said Sauron and Voldermort were at the top, then said Vader would likely hang with them.. so..

Both can't be at the top. Rank them 1-3.

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Still waiting.

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I like to make them wait stick out tongue

And geez man, I've practically spelt it out: Sauron is slightly above Voldermort, and Vader's like Palpatine for being either above or below them.

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I like to make them wait

And geez man, I've practically spelt it out: Sauron is slightly above Voldermort, and Vader's like Palpatine for being either above or below them.

Why is Sauron above Voldemort ? I'd like to hear an explanation.

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Why is Sauron above Voldemort ? I'd like to hear an explanation.

Threat level, reach, general reaction to him. The only thing thats impressive from Tom is the name thing, which most thought was cursed. Until HP5 everyone who didnt speak his name thought he was dead, so not so much a fear of him especially the students. Post HP5 you had Demontors stopping people from saying it (was told this), so less to do with fear of him. People feared Sauraon on the level at which Harry feared the dememors, and I dont believe anyone feared Tom this much(?).

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